18-70 now.. upgrade to?

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by VDMTom, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. VDMTom

    VDMTom

    28
    Jun 24, 2008
    CA, USA
    Yes, I have the Nikon 18-70 now. Want to upgrade.
    Not sure what to go for.
    I shoot models and automotive.

    Let me know. Also recent nikon convert.:eek:
     
  2. timkoo

    timkoo

    304
    Oct 9, 2007
    Chicago
    Depends on your budget and what you're looking for.

    Portraits typically use a longer focal length than autos (depending on what type you shoot)

    If you want full body shots I'd recommend the 17-55 or 28-70. If these are out of your budget, the Tamron alternatives are considered some of the best 3rd party lenses (17-50, 28-75) All four of these lenses offer a constant f/2.8 aperture so you will have better depth of field, subject isolation, and better low-light capabilities
     
  3. What makes you want to upgrade? (ie what's missing in the performance of the 18-70....this would lead you to what lens may fill the need.....)
     
  4. weiran

    weiran

    966
    Jan 2, 2007
    Nottingham, UK
    18-70 to Tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 is what I moved to. Same size, weight, but much sharper and faster.
     
  5. madeofpanda

    madeofpanda

    175
    Sep 8, 2007
    Canada
    I went from the 18-70 to the tamron 28-70 and i am very happy with the quality. the only downside is that wont give u as much wide angle as your 18-70. i dident think that i would miss those extra mm but i really do!!! other then that very pleased !
     
  6. adaml

    adaml

    976
    Feb 21, 2006
    chicago
    Of the Nikon line of lenses, the only true upgrade is the 17-55, but at 3x the price of the 18-70.

    I'm not familiar with the third party alternatives.
     
  7. I don't get "the only true upgrade is the 17-55" to be honest... the 24-70, the 28-70, the 17-35, the 17-55, even the 16-85... all these are true upgrades, unless you meant DX only, in which case forgive my misunderstanding.

    To get some different options, how about grabbing a bargain top optic in the 85mm f1.8. Great useful portrait lens, and very nice IQ. If you like the 50mm length on DX, the 50mm f1.4 is also a relative bargain for the IQ. To add some length and still keep budget in mind, the 70-300VR is incredibly versatile for the price.

    If money is less of an object and the idea is to REPLACE your current normal zoom, grab a 17-55, or if you intend on going FX down the road, a 24-70. The Sigma or Tamron 17/18-50 f2.8's are both an improvement somewhat on the kit 18-70, obviously for aperture speed, and neither will break the bank. I really was impressed by my 17-55 and would still have it today if it weren't for the FX move.
     
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  8. weiran

    weiran

    966
    Jan 2, 2007
    Nottingham, UK
    The 17-55 is Nikons only direct range replacement for the 18-70DX if you want a noticable difference, I don't think any of the other lenses (16-85, 18-135, 18-105 etc.) with a similar range to the 18-70DX will offer substantially better image quality, although the 16-85 and 18-105 do stand out as the best of the kit lens bunch.
     
  9. The 18-70 is a well regarded lens. Rather than upgrading, why not add some lenses that will complement it and expand your range of photography? Here's a couple of candidates based on my personal experiences.

    Going Wide
    I always considered myself a telephoto kind of guy, but was amazed at the creative possibilities when I bought a gently used Tokina 12-24/4 for $375. That range is traditionally used for landscapes...

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    but it can also deliver portraits, either realistic...

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    or stuff with intentional perspective distortion.

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    Going Fast

    In lens-speak, fast means big apertures. And big apertures relate to the ability of a lens to selectively focus, which allows you to isolate a subject from the background. This shot, for example, wouldn't have been nearly as effective if the bushes in the background had been in sharp focus.

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    Zooms aren't very fast. The biggest aperture of your 18-70 at full zoom is only f/4.5. Even Nikon's expensive pro zoom lenses are only f/2.8 at best. Imo, the biggest bargains in the lens world are prime (fixed focal length) lenses. You could pick up mint copies of the 35/2 and 50/1.4, and 85/1.8 for less than the price of a used 17-55... and beat its pants off in terms of speed and, arguably, image quality. But you don't need all 3... just 1 or 2 of them.

    The 35/2 is great for group pics and 3/4 body shots.

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    It's also very good for closeups.

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    I don't own the 50/1.4, but it's extremely fast and highly regarded... as is the less expensive 50/1.8.

    The 85/1.8 is an excellent general purpose medium telephoto lens, and is often used for head & shoulder portraits and headshots.

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    I use the f/1.4 version, but don't recommend it for general purpose use, as it's a very expensive portrait specialist's lens.

    Go Long
    Hey, it's worked for future Hall of Famer Bret Farve :wink:. Nikon offers several versions of 70-300mm telephoto zooms. The most recent one is the 70-300/4.5-5.6 VR. I paid $480 for mine, and consider it one of my very best lens buys. It's great for outdoor sporting events...

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    trips to the zoo...

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    and even birding.

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    Any of these lenses would be nice additions to your kit... but hang on to the 18-70. It's a very good lens. Jmho.
     
  10. timzilla

    timzilla Guest

    I made the same upgrade and am happy with my new lens
     
  11. mood

    mood

    Jun 27, 2007
    suburbia, ny
    I think other than a 2.8 option

    none of these other 18-xxx ones are any better, esp given the price

    get something different as U. Frank suggests

    I love my 18-70, awesome range, great IQ, fast AFS
     
  12. MMarz

    MMarz

    Sep 15, 2007
    Long Island, NY
    I agree with everyone that the 18-70 is a solid lens. I sold mine a while back, missed it's IQ and ease of carry and then bought another one!

    Admittedly, I have been searching for a mid-range zoom to compliment it, but my needs are specifically focused at a faster aperture. For what it is, the 18-70 rocks.
     
  13. Thaddeus

    Thaddeus

    177
    Jul 24, 2008
    TX
    i just bought my 18-70 from the cafe ..looking forward to seeing what I can do with it :D
     
  14. tammy 17-50 is not sharper than 18-70.
    if you want constant 2.8 then go with 24-70 2.8 much sharper than 17-55