85/1.4 or 17-55/2.8

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by nykonian, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. nykonian

    nykonian

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    May 4, 2007
    New York
    I understand that they are completely two different animals. However, I need to sell one of these to finance other interests. 17-55/2.8 is more versatile but 85/1.4 is so special that I can't seem to live without. Any suggestions/advices:QuestionM
     
  2. I agonized a 1000 times a day over this and similar issues. The quality and bokeh of the 85 versus the build and versatility of the zoom. I read and reread every thread I could find on the web about these and related lenses.

    Today, I ordered my very own 17-55 from Adorama. A couple of things helped influence my decision (though I am sure ego was one of them!). I found out by going back and looking at my pictures from the last 3-4 years that my "go-to" lens has been my 24-85 2.8-4.0. I tend to use the 30-55 range a lot, and often find myself reaching for my 12-24 when going wide or for effect. My 19 year old daughter is "inheriting" my 24-85 (along with my D100). So replacing one workhorse with another seemed obvious.
    The down side of this is it is an early birthday gift to myself, and I (we) have yet to deliver our gift to my wife--a house paint job!!!!----any of you coming to north Idaho in the next few???
     
  3. nykonian

    nykonian

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    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Nick, happy (early) birthday! This is a good story. When I looked at my pictures database, most of good shots are from either 50mm or 85mm. I don't really use zoom unless shooting weddings or birthday parties, but I am sure I can do it with 85mm+wide prime. I'm open for suggestions. :)
     
  4. CAJames

    CAJames

    Sep 6, 2006
    Lompoc, CA
    To me it is simple: The 85mm is unique so keep it. The 17-55 is very nice but there are a lot of cheaper alternatives: The Nikon 18-70 or 24-85, the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8, Sigmas ... the list goes on.
     
  5. I don't/ can't disagree with either of you--but with a 12-24 and a 17-55 I I have a 2 lens flexibility that appeals to me. If I was into portraits I am sure the 85 1.4 would have risen to the top. Actually, I was considering the 85 pc, since landscapes and nature are where I play the most.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhrggggggg: so many lenses, so little money!!!!:mad:
     
  6. Preston

    Preston

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    May 2, 2005
    Reno, NV
    Sell the 17-55. There is nothing else like the 85 1.4 But there are ALOT of excellent and cheap alternatives in the 17 or 18-50 range.
     
  7. Nuteshack

    Nuteshack Guest

    bro, the 85 1.4 has a signature unlike anything in the nikon line-up...i've always said if i was reduced to just one lens it would be my 35-70 2.8d ...that's just not so anymore ..lol

    nuff said
    ;-))
     
  8. md0234

    md0234 Guest

    As much as they are both excellent lenses, I think if I had to give one of those two up it would be the 17-55mm. The 85mm f/1.4 is so special, and I've always said it is the very last lens I would ever sell and I don't like selling lenses anyway. It sounds like you like to use the fl too, and as others have said, there are good alternatives to the 17-55mm that are cheaper, although it is one of my most used lenses. Just make sure you are certain you have to/want to sell it, as there is nothing worse having to spend even more money buying it again
     
  9. 1FASTZ

    1FASTZ

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    Jan 25, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    What are you typically shooting? Just reading your initial post, it sounds like you are way more in love with the 85 than the 17-55, so I think you need to keep the 85 based on the vibe that I got.
     
  10. mood

    mood

    Jun 27, 2007
    suburbia, ny
    Brian....
    I just got mine.
    you jumping ship on me already ??
     
  11. nykonian

    nykonian

    570
    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Frank, I still have both lenses on in front of me at this moment. I might change my mind and keep both when I wake up tomorrow morning. :)
     
  12. Yea I think it all depends on what type of shooting you do mostly. I also have both and could not part with either!!

    Well if someone was twisting my arm then I'd keep the 85mm. I just think its sharper than the 17-55
     
  13. Donzo98

    Donzo98

    Nov 10, 2005
    Merrick, NY
    Brian...
    I would not sell the 17-55. I am a zoom guy for sure. The convenience of the zoom to me is invaluable. I love the flexibility. The 85 is awesome for sure... I have it as well... but only goes on the camera for a specialized purpose.

    If you can... keep both. :biggrin:
     
  14. nykonian

    nykonian

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    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Don, I agree. 17-55 is very versatile and flexible. My problem is always "weight". I love super result in a small package. :) That's another reason I sold the "Beast". 85/1.4 is magical, yet small enough to be carried for the whole day without feeling the pain on the shoulder. Yes, I am keeping both for now. :smile:

    How about showing us more pics from your backyard? :smile:
     
  15. Donzo98

    Donzo98

    Nov 10, 2005
    Merrick, NY
    OK... how are these... :wink::wink:

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  16. Jonathan P.

    Jonathan P.

    177
    Jul 10, 2007
    Appalachia
    This is a tough one.

    I used to own the 85mm f/1.4, and like a fool I went and sold it. Of all the lenses I've ever sold (I've sold a few), I miss that one the most. I've wanted to purchase another one ever since, but finances just haven't allowed for it. All that said, the Nikkor 85mm f/1.4 AF-D is in a class all by itself.

    Even still, it'd be hard for me to justify giving up my 17-55mm f/2.8 to get the 85mm f/1.4 that I'm pining after. The 17-55 is both more versatile and more technologically advanced. Things like AF-S and modern lens coatings really do matter, and when you consider that the 85mm f/1.4 is missing these and other newer technologies, I feel that the lens is slightly overpriced. What's more, my 17-55 is almos always useful. An 85mm would be useful only occasionally.

    Furthermore, I now have a Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8 AF-S VR, and it's now even harder to justify purchasing the 85mm f/1.4. Sure, the 85mm is more convenient from a size perspective, and perhaps less intimidating to your subject. And it also does f/1.4 (though in my experience this was a double-edged sword—I got as many as "misses" as "keepers" below f/2.0 with this lens). But from the standpoint of image quality, I now have even less reason to own another 85mm f/1.4, because the 70-200 is just so darn good. Contrast is stunning (maybe better than my 85mm f/1.4 was), sharpness is fantastic, and the bokeh...well, along with the 200mm f/2, the 70-200 is the only lens with bokeh comparable to the 85mm f/1.4. Honestly, when I compare shots taken with the 70-200mm f/2.8 and the 85mm f/1.4, I can't really tell a difference in bokeh. They're both gorgeous.

    Bottom line, though: the 70-200 is so much more modern and versatile—for about $600 more than the 85mm—that I don't think I'll be able to convince myself to pull the trigger on another 85mm anytime soon. I love and respect the 85mm for what it is, but the 70-200 is just better for most of what I do. And no way I'd ever give up my 17-55mm for the 85mm. Despite the fact that it's a DX lens, I feel that the 17-55 will go down in history as another Nikon legend. The sharpness wide open is truly amazing, and the versatility can't be overstated.
     
  17. Brian,

    I agree with the others if you must sell one, KEEP THE 85 f/1.4, and sell the 17-55 f/2.8. The 85 f/1.4 is magic.

    Craig


     
  18. Snipps

    Snipps

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    Oct 7, 2006
    I have both, and if i could only keep one it would without a doubt be the 17-55. It just gets so much more use because it is in the "normal" range whereas the 85 is getting into the tele range. My 17-55 has helped me do some really good stuff, but so has the 85. I am bringing this combo to Israel soon when I go, should be the perfect setup.
     
  19. nykonian

    nykonian

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    May 4, 2007
    New York
    Just to conclude this thread, I sold 17-55 in favor of 85/1.4. :)
     
  20. The 85mm 1.4 is amazing, this is wide open.

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