Advice for model shooting whith black car

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by svenmichiels, Aug 29, 2005.

  1. svenmichiels

    svenmichiels

    198
    May 21, 2005
    Belgium
    Hello,

    Can someone give me some advice.

    Next sunday I am going to shoot some models (3) with a black car (Saab convertible)

    Equipment: D2X, 28-70 f/2.8 and SB-600

    Every advice for the camera, model or car are welcome

    thx Svenmichiels
     
  2. Watch your meter. The black car, if dominant in the frame, may throw it off. If I were in your shoes I would spot meter on the models to get an idea of what the proper exposure should be. Also consider what reflections you may get from the car windsheild, chrome, etc. Hate to get that one perfect shot only to discover that you got a nice self portrait in the windsheild reflection. :smile: Good luck.
     
  3. get a Grey card

    ...no not an old age thing, but a card that is useful for getting accurate exposure and white balance - if you have not got one, easily obtainable from most photo shops are a cheap price. How to use, google grey card and photography and dozens of useful sites come up.
     
  4. For something different, get a ladder and shoot down.
    You may need a shorter lens but the effect is amazing.
    Be careful of reflections in black car. Have fun.

    Cheers,
    Robin
     
  5. If you are using fill flash, meter on the background and set that first (I usually set that at -1 EV and then recompose and shoot letting the flash act as fill. Remember your meter will try to make the black car grey so set accordingly. Using flash value lock (FV) if your subject is off center will give you the best exposure. Lots of reflection on black cars so be aware of this as others have pointed out.
     
  6. Baywing

    Baywing

    Feb 22, 2005
    CT USA
    After you have done all that, check the histogram, it will tell you if you are in the ballpark. I'd spotmeter off the face and open up 1 stop. (Assuming the model is caucasian and not tanned)
     
  7. fks

    fks

    Apr 30, 2005
    sf bay area
    hi sven-

    to add to what gordon said, beware of the reflectors on the car if you're using flash. over here in the US, the reflectors reflect very brightly (European standards may be different).

    ricky

     
  8. Black car will show you what you show it!

    :Bomb: Since the black car will show you what you show it, place it far from anything you do not want in the photo. If the model is in white, choose off-white to avoid dynamic range problems. Keep the clothing simple in design. Flash may be challenging. A number of very large reflectors would be ideal. The reason you need many is that each one will likely show in the reflection, and a continuum of them will show up a single long reflection. Anyway, you have a challenge, and will likely benefit from Photoshop. The Highlight/Shadow tool in Photoshop CS is good candidate tool. And of course, by shooting digital you can check your histogram, etc. But perfect exposures don't fix lighting problems. It's best to anticipate and light your subjects the best you can, to minimize the need to fix the images later in Photoshop, etc.

    Good luck and have fun :smile: ,
     
  9. svenmichiels

    svenmichiels

    198
    May 21, 2005
    Belgium
    Hello everyone,

    Thx for all the advice.

    It will be a (very) sunny day next Sunday, do you think it will be usefull to install saveral flashes around the car?

    Doyou know a site whith several pictures of a model wit a cabrio?

    THX

    Svenmichiels
     
  10. svenmichiels

    svenmichiels

    198
    May 21, 2005
    Belgium
    Hello,

    I just want to ask one more time, does anyone have some advice for me?

    Thx for the tips.

    Svenmichiels
     
  11. Leigh

    Leigh

    Feb 19, 2005
    Alabama
    Just one....Take a deep breath and trust your instincts. I checked out your site and I think you are definitely going to do fine. Please let us know how it goes!
     
  12. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    How did the shoot and the black car turn out.
    Plesae share some images and let us know.
     
  13. svenmichiels

    svenmichiels

    198
    May 21, 2005
    Belgium
    Hello,

    Tomorrow is the big day.

    I will show some images within some days

    Svenmichiels
     
  14. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    Thanks for the reply.

    Beat of success to you.

    Looking foward to the images.

    I am sure we can all learn something from this tough situation you have.
     
  15. svenmichiels

    svenmichiels

    198
    May 21, 2005
    Belgium
    hi everyone,

    Yesterday was the big day, and it was a very difficult day.

    The weather in Belgium was 30°C. (I don't know how to calculate that in Farenheit), the sky was blue and that in combination whit a black car, pff

    I haven't got the time to see them all, but just for nikoncafé.com one preview:
    [​IMG]

    best regard,

    Svenmichiels and Paepke
     
  16. nice

    30degC to fahrenheit

    divide by 5 (=6) now multiply by 9 (=54) now add 32 = 86degF
     
  17. dbirdsong

    dbirdsong Guest

    I am not sure which is hotter the car or the girl...

    I am not sure which is hotter the car or the girl...
    The car.. No the Girl.. No it is the car...
    Forget the car, give me the girl!!!! :Tongue: :biggrin: :Tongue:

    Very nicely done... Please share some more.
     
  18. svenmichiels

    svenmichiels

    198
    May 21, 2005
    Belgium
    Because the bad reaction in other fora, here a second one:
    [​IMG]

    best regard,

    Svenmichiels
     
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