OK, I made it back to the pond where I shot the alien flower (Musk Thistle) last weekend. As you might recall, I shot the original series with the 300 2.8 + TC-14EII (not exactly a macro lens, but what I had mounted at the time....;-)). This time, I took the 70-200VR + Canon 500D. The first thing that I noticed was the the latter set-up was a real pain in the a$$ to set-up and shoot with. These flowers were on a creek bank, in a mass of other plants (weeds). With the 70-200VR and 500D, I had to get to within about 16 inches of the target. With the 300 + 1.4 TC, the working distance was much more convenient (about 5 feet). In any case, the 70-200 + 500D probably gave a tad better images, although the bokeh with the 300 + 1.4 TC was much better (not a totally fair comparison, since I shot at different apertures, but....). Here are some comparison shots. You be the judge. 300 + 1.4: 70-200VR + 500D: 300 + 1.4: 70-200VR + 500D: So, what do you think??