.....and another WD drive bites the big one!

Discussion in 'General Technical Discussion' started by Rich Gibson, May 10, 2005.

  1. I'm sitting here listening to the latest addition to the Rich Gibson hard drive graveyard. A 250GB WD sounding like the wind cycling up and down..up and down and clunking in between.

    I sure hope someone from WD reads this forum. I've never encountered such inferior products...well, yes I have...Maxtor. Two have died since January, but I've lost four WDs since last summer.

    I've noticed Seagate, and now Hitachi and Samsung at CompUSA and Circuit City and Best Buy. Micro Center is still pushing row upon row of Maxtors and WDs.

    For anyone, how would you rate the following, quality-wise?

    Hitachi
    Fujitsu
    Seagate
    Samsung
    ?

    Thanks :?:

    Rich
     
  2. Iliah

    Iliah

    Jan 29, 2005
    nowhere
    Dear Rich,

    One of my corporate friends, big Russian computer-trading company, taught me that if the drive is pressurized with foil tape running around the sides - it is not good. Also, they taught me - showing their graveyard and statistics, not to use WD, Samsung, and some other brands. Mounting HD is a very delicate operation - even a small scratch at the side of the drive can end in depressurizing. They do not use tight HD mounting frames, and their assembly people are trained to mount the dtrives with particular caution.
     
  3. Chris101

    Chris101

    Feb 2, 2005
    Arizona
    Thanks Rich - now I don't feel so alone with my own western digitalis drive starting to putz out on me. :(
     
  4. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    A couple of years ago I had a WD bite the dust. 2 months of operation.
     
  5. Iliah

    Iliah

    Jan 29, 2005
    nowhere
    my experience:

    IBM, Fujitsu, Seagate - I use only high-end Seagates - never died. Some are ten years old, external SCSI, travelling with me. All others - sooner or later died. Most after 2 years
     
  6. Chris101

    Chris101

    Feb 2, 2005
    Arizona
    Yeah Iliah, I have a 100 MB seagate that is 17 tears old, and it keeps on chugging. Of course 100 MB is not enough to do much, so it just sits under my vintage Macintosh, lookin' pretty. But it's nice to know it's there should I ever want to boot it up! ;)
     
  7. Greg

    Greg

    909
    Apr 5, 2005
    Fayetteville, TN
    This is really a subject for Patrick but I can tell you I have about 40 Maxtors ranging from 20 gig to the big ones. Don't think I ever had one fail. had several of the deathstars go south though.
     
  8. Iliah

    Iliah

    Jan 29, 2005
    nowhere
    I had failures w/Atlas AV types, on videoediting machines. But it is very heavy usage...
     
  9. Rich,

    HD should be much heartier then what you are discribing. Are you sure that you don't have another problem that is causing these HD failures (e.g. heat or a bad power supply)?
     
  10. Heat could theoretically be a cause, but it's in a number of different PCs. Power supply-wise, no because I have big beefy Enenmax and similar PS.s I learned my lesson when I'd coome home from work and find that the PC had rebooted.

    I use Lian LI custom Aluminum cases with the drives situated directly in front of the two intake fans.

    Last summer I bought the 25gb WD at Fry's in Chicago for an unusally low price. It failed in a month. The replacement failed this february. Examining it very closely I noticed that this replacement was refurbished. I am pretty sure the latest bunch of Maxtors and WDs are being produced to lower quality specifications.

    Two years ago the Maxtors started acting this way and then I switched to WD. Then they started failing last summer at about one every other month. I have four different PCs at home and the failures came from various computers. So far two 120GB and two 250GB from WD.

    Rich
     
  11. Rich,

    I've only used Maxtors and WD. The last two that I bought were WD and I've had good luck (knock wood). I'm not sure what to tell you (other back-up early, back-up often). :)
     
  12. I was scared ONCE! I have the entire 110GB image collection in four differennt locations.

    Rich
     
  13. PGB

    PGB

    Jan 25, 2005
    Don't get hitachi! Those and IBM are probably the worst that I have ever seen. If it says Deskstar or "deathstar" as I call it it is no good.

    Maxtor and Seagate are the most reliable and as I sell hundreds of hard drives a month and pull up the return stats. I get one out of 20 drives that come back within my 30 day warranty through the store and all of the drives I have at Greg's place are maxtor's and the oldest ones have been running for 2 years, non stop with no failures.

    I like maxtor, seagate more. Fujitsu 3.5" ide drives I had experience with several years ago but because of failure rates I dumped them. Fuji laptop drives are so so and fail often. Any Dell inspiron that has a hitachi notebook drive will most likely fail within one year of owning it. I service 3 a week with this problem. I have probably replaced 75 laptop drives from dell laptops in the past few months.

    I really wish that flash drives were not so expensive and not so static sensitive. That would be so cool to run off of a 250gb flash drive. Imagine how fast the seek times would be with that.

    Just my .02
     
  14. Ken-L

    Ken-L Guest

    Over some 15 years in computer consulting I found Maxtor and Seagate to be more reliable than Western Digital.

    Some WD drive were very good, but it has been their inconsistency that is the rule rather than the exception.

    Fortunately for all of us, the "good" hard drives have evolved from the nightmare all of them they used to be!
     
  15. sfoxjohn

    sfoxjohn

    May 1, 2005
    Marlton, NJ
    I'm really surprised. I have used nothing but Western Digital since about 1988(20MB - seems hard to believe) and have never had one fail. (Of course now that I said that, it will probably happen). At present I have a 120GB as primary and a 160GB as a second drive. These two have been running fine for about three years, and I use the machine daily when not traveling.

    The first three rules of computing, after all, have always been Backup, Backup, Backup!

    I have read in one of those computer FAQ columns that turning the computer off and on frequently can cause the drives to wear out faster because of all the initialization. Who knows? I never turn mine off more than every two weeks or longer.

    OR ... it's just the luck of the draw.
     
  16. fks

    fks

    Apr 30, 2005
    sf bay area
    hi rich-

    i've had an IBM IDE drive die, and a quantum scsi drive die. my maxtor and western digital drives have been good (knock wood), no problems with those.

    ricky
     
  17. Ken-L

    Ken-L Guest

    Yes! I have seen computers that ran for years without being switched off, and when they were switched off they would not restart.

    The MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) for many components will DOUBLE if the system is NOT switched off and on frequently.

    I too only turn mine off when I will be away, or for cleaning, or heaven forbid a "hard crash". But....every component I have runs off a very good battery-backup system that also filters, conditions and protects.
     
  18. Maxtors for years, internal and external, no problems to date *fingers crossed*. PC always on unless vacation or storm.
     
  19. AndyE

    AndyE

    871
    May 2, 2005
    Vienna, Austria
    Currently in use:
    20 Maxtor S-ATA
    11 Maxtor external
    6 Seagate SCSI
    4 WD IDE
    6 IBM IDE
    Total Capacity: 7.5 TB
    Last HD problem: 1995

    I seem to be lucky :D (knock on wood)
    Seriously: I really care about cooling and power stability
     
  20. Hey Rich, did you get to see Gigapart's Hot Deals for this week???
    http://www.gigaparts.com/index.php
    This is gonna be my next back-up drive for my GameStation PC... HD0187 MAXTOR 300GB U-133 7200 16MB in what, 5 days...!!!
     
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