Another Z model soon??

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Hogan thinks a DX mirrorless from Nikon is unlikely. Wishful thinking on my part.

As Rick is suggesting, another line of lenses would probably not be practical.
 
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Nikon is in a tough position. Sony and Canon both have sub-$1000 USD APS-C cameras that sell very well and Canon now has a low cost FF MILC as well (Sony uses their previous gen bodies for those price points). I think Nikon needs a sub $1000 USD DX body with Z mount, also a lower price FX Z body that competes with the RP and lastly replace the D750 with an updated F-mount body. I think that will plug all the gaps and then they can go all out with the Z mount.
 
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Sometimes I think Nikon should make a 5nnnn body without a mirror, just put a nice EVF on it and keep the F mount on it. All existing F mount APS-C and FF lenses with chips would work fine, the body would be plenty compact and it might just sell like hotcakes!
 
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Nikon is in a tough position. Sony and Canon both have sub-$1000 USD APS-C cameras that sell very well and Canon now has a low cost FF MILC as well (Sony uses their previous gen bodies for those price points). I think Nikon needs a sub $1000 USD DX body with Z mount, also a lower price FX Z body that competes with the RP and lastly replace the D750 with an updated F-mount body. I think that will plug all the gaps and then they can go all out with the Z mount.
Are you saying a sub 1K DX body just for the price point or because DX has some inherent advantages? Cause that would assume building at least SOME ecosystem of DX Z lenses which I just don't see happening in any time frame before smartphone cameras run the board - at least at the lower end.

My guess is that it will be a $1200 USD FX plastic fantastic with a competent (non S) Z 24-120 (try, try again). The cost saving would come from lowering manufacturing costs and cheaper materials minimal new development costs. If you want weather sealing and a more rugged body, the Z6 would be worth the premium cost.
 
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Are you saying a sub 1K DX body just for the price point or because DX has some inherent advantages? Cause that would assume building at least SOME ecosystem of DX Z lenses which I just don't see happening in any time frame before smartphone cameras run the board - at least at the lower end.

My guess is that it will be a $1200 USD FX plastic fantastic with a competent (non S) Z 24-120 (try, try again). The cost saving would come from lowering manufacturing costs and cheaper materials minimal new development costs. If you want weather sealing and a more rugged body, the Z6 would be worth the premium cost.
If they do make a crop sensor Z, I presume people could use an FTZ to adapt their existing F-mount DX glass. That might be a good strategy to keep current D3xxx/5xxx/7xxx owners “in the family” for the long term.
 
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A lower priced consumer Z5 (24mp, 4k@60fps, built in flash) with an articulated screen would interest many people, especially vloggers, but Nikon have the Z6 which they are pushing as the video camera so a Z5 would undermine Z6 sales, not sure which direction Nikon can take the Z range if they down spec and I am not sure that they want a Z8 out just yet. For me Nikon should focus on getting more lenses out into the marketplace and bring a third camera late 2019 or early 2020.
 
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Making dx Z mount lenses seems like such a waste of that huge flange which is capable of creating a wonderfully big image circle. Much larger than dx needs.
Totally agree, I don't see Nikon having a Z camera with a DX sensor, that would be an illogical decision - why waste that lovely new big mount with a crop sensor? How about a Z8 with a FX+ sensor, say 70mp, the lens mount could take a slightly bigger sensor, compete with the Fuji GFX range which has that market virtually to itself. ;);)
 
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Making dx Z mount lenses seems like such a waste of that huge flange which is capable of creating a wonderfully big image circle. Much larger than dx needs.
Totally agree, I don't see Nikon having a Z camera with a DX sensor, that would be an illogical decision - why waste that lovely new big mount with a crop sensor? How about a Z8 with a FX+ sensor, say 70mp, the lens mount could take a slightly bigger sensor, compete with the Fuji GFX range which has that market virtually to itself. ;);)
I understand your points here. However, with a 1.4x TC my 300/4 PF and D7200 give me 630mm f/5.6 equivalent focal length. Do you think Nikon can do that in a package of the same weight or less with a full frame "Z" camera? The 500/5.6 PF weighs about twice as much as the 300/4, and the Z6 is already almost as heavy as the D7200 (585gm vs 675gm).
 
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I understand your points here. However, with a 1.4x TC my 300/4 PF and D7200 give me 630mm f/5.6 equivalent focal length. Do you think Nikon can do that in a package of the same weight or less with a full frame "Z" camera? The 500/5.6 PF weighs about twice as much as the 300/4, and the Z6 is already almost as heavy as the D7200 (585gm vs 675gm).
Something with that sort of reach is probably not on their radar for a while. You can always get a Z7 and shoot it in DX mode. But with an adaptor and TC that would be so bulky.
 
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I understand your points here. However, with a 1.4x TC my 300/4 PF and D7200 give me 630mm f/5.6 equivalent focal length. Do you think Nikon can do that in a package of the same weight or less with a full frame "Z" camera? The 500/5.6 PF weighs about twice as much as the 300/4, and the Z6 is already almost as heavy as the D7200 (585gm vs 675gm).
Something with that sort of reach is probably not on their radar for a while. You can always get a Z7 and shoot it in DX mode. But with an adaptor and TC that would be so bulky.
Yes, you can do that, or simply crop in post. I have cropped into my D800 files for closeups with great success. Having 45 MP (over my 36) would give you even more cropping ability.
 

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