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Any fashion experts out there ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by bendheim, Mar 9, 2005.

  1. Those of you who know my work will know that I do social documentary, not fashion.

    Anyway, I've been asked to do a five model fashion shoot outdoors in an industrial area on Friday. No lights, just natural. Maybe fill flash, but I'm a natural light kinda guy and I only have a SB-22x (which I think was on the Ark with Noah!)

    I'm scared sh!tless, to put it mildly. Coming from me, who would go to Iraq at the drop of a hat!! Who's gonna give me some good advice...angles, lenses ( i was thinking 17-55), anything you can do to help...oh, best D2H focus setting for casual on the move shots.

    It's got to be in the modern style of fashion..slightly grunge, industrial
    background, streetwise, tense, natural NOT studio type glamour.

    All comments more than welcome.

    It just shows you how specialist photography can become and how odd it can be to move out of one's comfort zone!
  2. Think large reflectors - big white boards or anything big and large area for manipulating light to the subjects. Colored can also yield interesting results. Get an assitant to hold your flash and bounce it off stuff.

    Go to the FM site and check out their people photography section - lots of VERY talented people there.

    Judging by your talents Peter I have no doubt you will turn out some amazing images.

    Good Luck!!
  3. marek

    marek Guest

    I have no idea what you will come up with but I know that I'm looking forward to it. Fashion with a touch of street ... sounds good.

    If you feel comfortable with natural light only then go for it. It's going to look unconventional and maybe *gasp* a bit more natural than most fashion shoots but like I said at the outset - that's what will make it interesting.

    What is the goal of the shoot? What medium will the photos be used in?
  4. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    Now's the time to spring for an SB800

    Consider it spending the money you'e about to make in advance! :p  Set it to iTTL FP BL, something like -1 to -1 2/3 EV, and shoot as you normally would. This will add just a touch of needed fill. Would also strongly sugggest using a flash bracket like a Stroboframe, to get the SB up off the camera. Also with a flash bracket, you can flip the SB to be in the proper orientation for Vert shots, or which you'll be doing a LOT of. Tom Weber and others here do a lot of this type of shooting, so I'm sure they will lend an ear. Oh and btw, I didn't know that "scared sh!tless" was an international term! I thought that was purely American! :roll:
    Also, the longer the lens the better. Think 70-200VR or similar. It helps to compress the bg, and doesn't cause unseemly lens distortion, which is a very bad thing in a fashion shoot. PS, you might want to bring a small 2-3 ft ladder to get some shots from a higher perspective. Just a thought. Hope some of this helps.
  5. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    An example of fill flash:

    The trick is, it's not supposed to look like you used flash. This was shot in the shade 10mins before sunset.
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  6. tweber


    Feb 12, 2005
    St. Louis
    Re: An example of fill flash:


    That is quite a shot. You demonstrate your point well with that one.

  7. Peter, take your ancient flash and tape a white card to the back of it and let it extend up a couple of inches above the flash head. Point your flash up at a 45 or 66 degree angle and shoot away. This will provde just the right amount of fill flash and give a catch light to the eyes as well. I practice on things around the house such as lamp shades, family members (when they will let me), my dog, etc. A little fill flash will add some snap to your images.

    Now that said, natural light is also a great medium if there is enough of it. I kick my ISO up in order to allow me to have a reasonable shutter speed and aperature. Based on what I have seen of your work you will do fine.

    Lastly, buy yourself an SB800 to use with your D2H and you won't be sorry. It is a great flash and with iTTL produces some good shots. I used that plus natural light for my photo shoot with the Southern Utah Heritage Choir. I will post some images on Monday. By the way, it has the little white card built into the flash and you just pull it up.
  8. Re: Now's the time to spring for an SB800

    Steve - Three things -- the shot you posted is EXTRAORDINARILY GOOD.Wow and thanks.

    If I read my manual right, I cannot use the 22x with any form of TTL on the D2H? I need another flash, but they are sooooo expensive in South Africa ! (the equivalent of USD800!!!!) I'll need to import, again...Sigh!

    Finally the term "scared sh!tless" was somethin I picked up from a favorite album from years ago - when Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young played their very first gig at Woodstock ! Boy, am I giving my age away ! I still love CSNY - the epitome of late sixties early seventies music for moi.

    TO EVERYONE ELSE - Thank's for the good advice - I was getting kinda scared. It's been put off for a few days, thankfully, moree time to prepare!
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