Australian Black Swan

Discussion in 'Birds' started by Gale, Apr 23, 2005.

  1. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    Colors not to shoot. White and black. EEEKKK I have been after these two for a long time. Still working on it.

    This Zoo is not laid out for easy photography I will tell you.

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    Speaking of colors..Have also been trying so hard to get these as well.

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    comments, Critique and help always needed.
    Than You
     
  2. Hi Gale, I have been looking at your bird pictures and while you compose and take them well they are all a little soft in the focus department. Are you running these through any kind of sharpening in either Nikon Capture or Photo Shop?

    Like the colors in the last photo.
     
  3. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    Have to agree w/Gordon here on the focus issue

    I notice this a lot with your pics, certainly not every one, but a fair number of them. Since you don't post your shooting data, and it's lost in the jpg conversion/save, I can only guess what's going on here. (I have an IE plugin that reads the shooting data if it's there). I noticed this on your Vulture pic from earlier, and again on this Swan pic, but not on the Ibis' pic. Either your shutter is too slow, and you're getting motion blur... yes, it can happen even with VR, (it can't perform miracles, you know), your camera is front focussing, or possibly you're just not sharpening them enough. Not really sure what it is. Are you setting your focus reticle on their heads?
     
  4. MontyDog

    MontyDog

    Jan 30, 2005
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  5. I will have to say.....I have never seen a black swan before. Great shots Gale. Thanks for sharing!! :D :D :D :D
     
  6. Greg

    Greg

    909
    Apr 5, 2005
    Fayetteville, TN
    Interesting angle of the black. keep after them.
     
  7. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    You are right Monty, Most of the time caused from motion. Even with VR. However much worse without VR.
    I don't do alot of sharpening. May need to do a bit more.

    I would have to use and carry the tripod all the time. WOW that is alot of stuff for me to carry. Unless I am stationary. Flying birds, forget it.

    Well guess I need to shed 20 years and lift weights. :>))

    Thank you all for the help. Most appreciated.
     
  8. Flew

    Flew

    994
    Jan 25, 2005
    Alabama
    Gale,

    My hands shake so bad that there is no way that I could shoot the simplest picture without a tripod or monopod. Just ask Patrick (I showed him just this morning).

    I know that you don't like your current tripod, and they do tend to be on the heavy side. Have you tried a monopod? They aren't as steady as a tripod, but they make a huge difference over hand-holding, they are relatively light (around 1 lb), and you can get a really good one for about $40.

    One other thing that you can do besides just using a monopod is to use a strap to make the monopod even more steady. I'm sure that you've seen my set-up (if not, here's the link - http://flew.smugmug.com/gallery/265428).

    I'm shooting from a tripod now, and I do think that it is more stable, but I sure got a bunch of good pics with this monopod set-up.

    Just a thought. 8)

    Frank
     
  9. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    Frank,

    First of all my tripod is not only heavy it is a POS.

    I also need legs that dont screw tight. Seems I haven't got the strength to get them tight enough.
    Down goes a leg or two. :>))

    I looked at your set up. Might very well be the answer.

    Hope you bring it with you. Would like to see all the goodies like the head you have on it and how that strap feels.

    Thanks for the great suggestion.

    I have a POS monopod to.
     
  10. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    Just a thought, Gale

    Have you thought of pushing up the ISO more to get faster shutter speed that wouldn't be so effected by camera shake? Do you mind saying what the swan's shutter speed was?
     
  11. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    My shutter speeds are fast Steve
     
  12. Gale, ROFLMAO, to hear you use the POS wording just makes me giggle................2nd shot is great, especially a tougher exposure shot. Nicely done!!
    Oh I like the third shot just as much!
     
  13. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    I just pulled up the originals in NC 4.2 and they are sharp on Capure.

    Wonder if something in the adobe to srgb change or something is going on.

    Average speed 1/500 to 1200 or so. 5.6 with the 80-400 VR D100

    My prints are great. I had 4 printed 11x14 last week.

    So I don't know.

    I pushed the ISO up once and do not like the noise.

    Yeah Keith,
    When I got the D100 I bought a Bogan tripod 100 dollar variety. YUKKKK POS for sure. I did not know bupkus from tripods. Learn and $$$$$$$$$

    Guess I picked up the POS thing being a computer technician a few years back. lolol

    Thank You for your nice comments Keith.
     
  14. Hi Gale, maybe its when you downsize for web that you loosing some sharpness but not your original pics. How do you downsize? Fred Miranda has a pretty good Photoshop action you may want to look at? If the downsize shot still looks a little soft, you can set your radius to .3 and play with the size until you find what you like..........
     
  15. Gale

    Gale

    978
    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    Thank you Keith. I may just try that.

    $$$$$$$$$$$ never ends :>))

    I am not downsizing in PS I use and off the wall prog I have had for a long time.

    I up load low rez images.
     
  16. Hi Gale, email sent!
     
  17. MontyDog

    MontyDog

    Jan 30, 2005
    #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax;
     
  18. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    A 500th @400mm isn't so fast

    I know, I seem to be belaboring the point here Gale, so I will add these final thoughts, then forever hold my peace. You do know I'm just trying to be helpful, don't you? :) If you push the ISO to get consistantly very fast shutter speeds, you will not experience camera shake. Simple as that. Noise is something you can deal with in post... camera shake, you cannot. When shooting @full zoom, at least double, or better yet, triple your focal length for your shutter speed. Also stopping down that lens a little would help too. I'd like to hear what others' opinions are on this subject. Somebody back me up here!
    :lol:
     
  19. Flew

    Flew

    994
    Jan 25, 2005
    Alabama
    Steve,

    I'll back you up 'cause you are correct, but it sounds like from Gale's replies that her originals are sharp, and that they are getting softened in the resizing step. This is a problem we all have to deal with. I've struggled with it right up until now.

    When I upgraded to PS CS a few weeks ago, I immediately bought the FM Resize Pro plug-in to solve exactly this problem. I was tired of seeing sharp shots come out fuzzy when reduced for web viewing. So far, I'm very happy with the results, and it's only $24.95.

    Gale, if you can let me have access to one or two of the originals (TIFF's would be the best), I'll run them through the FM process and see how they come out if you wish. Just let me know.

    Regards,

    Frank
     
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