B&W conversion with Glow work (lots pics later in post)

Discussion in 'Retouching and Post Processing' started by Commodorefirst, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    converted this image into B&W from the original processed Raw file (raw work done in capture NX, B&W conversion and other work in PS CS) D200, 200VR lens, f2, 1/60, ISO 800,

    I wasn't really happy with the image and didn't use it in the albums for the studio, but thought that this work presented a different look.

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  2. Very nice Wade :smile::smile:I actually like em both :biggrin:
     
  3. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    Thanks Mike,

    Much appreciated,

    Wade
     
  4. Very nice, Wade, and I like both the colour and BW version. I might be tempted to eradicate the scuff marks of the stage and tone down the lines which seem to pull the eyes away from the ballerina. Nice image.
     
  5. Logan

    Logan Guest

    very nice wade... for some reason when i saw the BW i instantly thought of IR, looks great nonetheless
     
  6. I prefer the Color version. The B&W is not a quality B&W, IMO. But you really think the girl's expression is good?
     
  7. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    If I do ever use it the lines and scuffs would be cleaned up, was jsut playing around a bit,
     
  8. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    Wasn't going for a "quality" BW conversion but more of a glow look or presence look, and I even did some despeckle and noise reduction and local bluring too.

    And in regards to the expression, yep, that is why it didn't make the cut, Good eye there Ned.

    I was intriqued by the effect of the shearness of the ballerina tutu, and seeing how far I could make it glow, and I wanted a glow effect on the skin too. A straight BW conversion would have left all the detail in the tutu but why bother on this image, try something different I thought.

    Best part of this image is the hand position and arm position in relation to the body, expression isn't the best as you noted.

    Thanks for the look and coments and your eye Ned, much appreciated.

    Wade
     
  9. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    Was the effect I was tending toward, thanks,

    Wade
     

  10. Glad to see you didn't take offense in my post! That's refreshing!
    Yes, I see what you we're after and we all like to try, but her expression was key here.

    I know Ballet photography is the most hard thing to achieve. I've tried a few times and got it all wrong, all the time! It's ALL about the Apex moments in each and every move/sequence. Theoretically, IMO, only a Ballet Connoisseur can shoot good Ballet pictures... So please show your keepers. I know I'll enjoy them a lot.
     
  11. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    Well,

    To do ballet properly you still must have strobes and or really good lighting, otherwise you just can't get those apex moments most of the time. A big part is knowing the music and songs, but I am not at the level of the top dance mag photogs - yet :wink: most of those are pure studio/theatre arranged shots.

    Most of the time at events I do they don't allow flash and of course you can't do that during performance either,

    so as requested here are some none flash keeper shots for the studio, some of these ballet, some not, but about the best I can do right now in natural stage lighting, These are the ones I have releases for, since most are minors, so this also limits my web posting too. These are ultra low res files around 50kb to keep folks from copying off the site and printing, so you may see some jagged edges.

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  12. 6 is really nice...
     
  13. Commodorefirst

    Commodorefirst Admin/Moderator Administrator

    May 1, 2005
    Missouri
    Yep one of the best, We don't get that many jumps and leaps in the younger groups,

    Wade
     
  14. imagefusion

    imagefusion Guest

    Dance by far is one of the hardest subjects to capture well.
    These images are first rate !

    I should be posting a bunch today (hope that they are as good !)

    Dave
     
  15. The rest are great too Wade....really well done under tough circumstances :biggrin:
     
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