Hi, I am intrigued by The Dude's thread on 35mm f/1.4 - 50mm f/1.2 - 85 f/1.4 (AF). Not intending to hi-jack Dude's thread, I thought I'd post this I would like to see your best samples of "ideal" bokeh here, so I can get an idea of what the Cafe can agree on exemplifies great bokeh. But also bad samples alongside great ones are welcome. (please obviously include which lens you've used and if known, the focal length) Does the "Cream Machine" produce excellent bokeh at all focal lengths, or are there ideal focal lengths for this? I think I remember someone saying the best bokeh ever is on the 300mm f/...(can't remember which). Is it the same-- do these lenses always produce great bokeh? Does shutter speed matter? Should I be able to make out what's in the background? Should the edges of everything be rounded and smooth? Should the background me muted and soft so as to not 'compete' with the foreground? All of these, none of these? I have read about bokeh and the relationship with blades, etc., but I guess I just want to see what to look for and how to increase the possibility that I might introduce it into my images. I'm not really from Missouri, but for the purposes of this post, just pretend I am and SHOW ME!! (for the non-American readers, Missouri calls itself the "Show Me" state) Thanks!!!!!