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CC Please, B&W

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by mksjjs, Aug 16, 2009.

  1. mksjjs


    Dec 29, 2008
    Taos, New Mexico
    Ok so I'm studying more on B&W. I've researched different tips, one mainly not just turning my image into grayscale, but rather desaturate and adjust. Well I took this image sometime back and thought it might look more interesting in B&W. Now what I've done is just a test, I've played and adjusted tones. I've read that B&W is more about grays than blacks. I could be wrong on that one. Anyway, tell me what you think. Thanks!!

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  2. Snake


    Dec 19, 2005
    Central Alabama
    In my opinion, you hit the nail on the head when you said gray. I think you should probably try working with "levels" or possibly the "channel mixer" to try and get some contrast and a little more "pop" in the photo. It just looks way too flat with no contrast. I like the image, but really think it could stand some more processing.
  3. garyosborne

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    Agree with above. More contrast try to extract more detail in the sky
  4. Chris101


    Feb 2, 2005
    Ah, cool Manuel! I have a collection of B&W photos of D8 and D9 cats. Decades ago I did a whole series of them.

    I love the isolation and general composition of your picture, but I agree that it could stand some processing to bring out the goodness that is in there. Don't be afraid of going black, nor of hitting a few stark whites either. Rather than trying to keep it all in the middle grays, most B&W photographers try to go from almost solid black to nearly pure white. With digital b&w, this takes some processing to get it right in the Zone. :Wink: (A reference to Ansel Adams, whom you quote - he was the master of filling the contrast curve with everything in the place he intended.)

    I have sent you a version of this photo by PM. I didn't want to just post it, but you may if you think it's worthwhile. It is completely your image, but processed like Adams might have done, going from black in some of the shadows of the tractor, to white in places in the clouds.
  5. Ronald M

    Ronald M

    Nov 10, 2008
    Look at some monochrome that is well done. Clouds in sun are never grey. The whole thing looks flat.

    There is no midtone contrast either. Converting a decent color and doing nothing would get you way closer to ideal.
  6. I posted an answer and my take on your other thread. Here it is again:

    Please don't post the same thread in multiple places, and especially here. The proper place would be either B&W section or Retouch section.
  7. mksjjs


    Dec 29, 2008
    Taos, New Mexico
    I agree with everyone, as I thought last night, it needs more pop! Thanks guys!

    Chris thank you for the kudos on composition as well as how you adjusted this image. It looks great! LOL Really I like it, it gives me a reference when I go back and adjust my images. It does have that Adams look and that's what I'm going for in my B&W. I have always admired his work!

    Thanks again everyone!
  8. mksjjs


    Dec 29, 2008
    Taos, New Mexico
    alex thanks for the CC and my apologies for the multiple postings, as well in the wrong section. Was just looking for some quick CC being I was working on some images last night.
    Again, thanks everyone!!!
  9. davidC


    Mar 10, 2009
    2nd go at it is definitely better

    i use the channel mixer to try to make the image "pop"
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