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"Creamy" pics from "Cream Machines", 85mm f/1.2 & f/1.4...

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by Igor, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. Igor

    Igor

    May 15, 2005
    Ukraine, Europe
    I love these lenses, what more can I say....
    All shot wide open.

    #1-5 - D200 + AF or AIS 85mm f/1.4
    #6-10 - 1D Mk.III + 85mm f/1.2

    1.
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    2.
    flower-D20_2318-RS.
    NIKON D200    ---    85mm    f/1.4    1/4000s    ISO 200


    3.
    flower-D20_2264-RS.
    NIKON D200    ---    85mm    f/1.4    1/800s    ISO 200


    4.
    flower-D20_3525-RS.
    NIKON D200    ---    85mm    f/1.4    1/3000s    ISO 100


    5.
    flower-D20_3499-RS-02.
    NIKON D200    ---    85mm    f/1.4    1/3200s    ISO 250


    6.
    irina-1DM32622-LR.

    7,8. (two versions)
    View attachment 257130 View attachment 257131

    9.
    flowers-1DM31541-LR.
    Canon EOS-1D Mark III    ---    85mm    f/1.2    1/2000s    ISO 200


    10.
    flower-seller-1DM32730-LR.
    Canon EOS-1D Mark III    ---    85mm    f/1.2    1/250s    ISO 1600


    Thanks for looking.
     
  2. RichNY

    RichNY Guest

    All of your images look great but the Canon 85L shots look significantly nicer to me.
     
  3. nykonian

    nykonian

    570
    May 4, 2007
    New York
    I thought the Canon counterpart is significantly more expensive than the Nikon so it should show better result. :) 

    These are very nice pictures regardless. Thanks for sharing!
     
  4. giletti

    giletti

    170
    Jan 12, 2008
    Victoria, BC
    Nice. I like the compositions 2,5, 9 and 10. Bokeh in #1 seems a bit odd.

    ... maybe it is just my (calibrated) monitor (stupid apple imac screen), but #1 - #6 look a bit oversaturated to me.
     
  5. The shots were taken wide open, so there's f/1.4 vs f/1.2 to consider... but there's more than the lens involved. The Nikon shots were taken on a d200 dx camera. The Canon shots were taken on a full frame camera. That changes everything.
     
  6. sllywhtboy

    sllywhtboy

    78
    Jun 28, 2006
    detroit'ish
    nevermind. ignore this
     
  7. RichNY

    RichNY Guest

    Frank, it doesn't change anything; the Canon 85L shots look significantly nicer to me :) 

    Coming from the Canon world and having shot with the 85 f/1.2 v1 and v2 I can say they are pigs when it comes to focusing compared to the screw driven Nikon 85 f/1.4 though.
     
  8. TheCommons

    TheCommons

    112
    Jul 2, 2008
    LA, CA ;)
    Was there some heavy PP in the first pic? the tree and background in general looks like a photoshop filter
     
  9. cotdt

    cotdt

    Jul 14, 2007
    Bay Area, USA
    that's just the rendition of that lens :cool: 
     
  10. Not based on my experience. But it may have been the AIS copy.
     
  11. david fletcher

    david fletcher

    54
    Apr 5, 2008
    UK
    Just my 2 cents, but we need to be mindful that the Body sensor technology of the D200 compared to the 1DIII is quite different, and quite a bit older. The images will be naturally different due to the differences in sensor technology, and whilst there probably wasn't any other option, it still isn't quite the same to compare bokeh, as the tendency is to look at the overall IQ.
     
  12. I agree that it's very difficult and unfair to compare these 2 lenses on cameras with entirely different sensor technology. Both sets of images look great and I'm partial to the Canon 85mm f/1.2 images but I don't think it's a fair comparison.
     
  13. marioni

    marioni

    808
    Jan 22, 2006
    Every time you compare any lens against a Canon 85/1.2, it's unfair comparison. That Canon lens somehow always look far better...
     
  14. RichNY

    RichNY Guest

    I never compared the lenses; I just stated which images I liked better :) 
     
  15. Igor

    Igor

    May 15, 2005
    Ukraine, Europe
    Guys, I thank you very much for the comments, but this thread was NOT intended as COMPARISON of lenses/sensors/systems/etc. Just a set of similar images.
    Shooting with both Canon and Nikon systems I know well, that BOTH are great, that's why I use both.
    Thanks again!
     
  16. Igor

    Igor

    May 15, 2005
    Ukraine, Europe
    Not at all, here's the unprocessed file, just downsized.
    Thanks.
    D20_2248-RS.
    NIKON D200    ---    85mm    f/1.4    1/500s    ISO 200
     
  17. Umm, #6 and #10 are awesome! :smile:
     
  18. Frank,

    Not quite true on the FF. It's a 1.3 sensor actually. It really wouldn't matter much anyway. My D300 is very much the equivalent of my D700 with the higher pixel density. It's hard for me to tell the difference between the two.

    Regards,
    Gene
     
  19. I know the OP wasn't intending to compare the two lenses, but since that discussion has come up I wanted to point out that if the Canon camera has a larger sensor, then for the same f/# and focal length, there will be less depth of field compared to the D200. Just another factor to take into account when comparing images on two different systems.

    Barry
     
  20. Gene, there's a big difference in FOV, which equates to a big difference in DOF when you frame a composition identically while using the same focal length lens.
     
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