D70s at minus 30 celsius -field report

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I've often wondered how my camera (D70s) would hold up in the cold, so I thought some of you might find this interesting. This is not meant to be scientific, just my personal experience with the D70s. I've recently returned from a trip to Banff, Alberta (50/50 snowboarding and photography) and overall, I was pretty impressed with how the camera and lenses performed under the conditions.

Some examples:

At -30 celsius one day, and -26 celsius a different day for about 5 hours (each time):

Camera body worked well for the first 3.5 to 4 hours, and then started to have issues after that. For example, the shutter would fire, but nothing would get written to the memory card (Sandisk Ultra II 2GB). At first I thought the card was at fault so swapped a warm card, but same problem occurred. I noticed that the green card-access indicator was not even coming on, so I presume the issue was with the camera body (a fresh battery did not resolve the problem). As well, the shutter sounded different on these occasions. This would happen for about 5-10 shutter releases in a row, then it would successfully take a few pictures, then the issue would repeat.

Although new images were not being recorded, the camera would redisplay the previously stored picture, which gave me a false sense that a picture was actually being taken. But later I noticed the problem when I realized the picture counter wasn't changing. In other cases a picture would get recorded but the top and bottom would have black vertical bands.

The battery did reasonably well, and I swapped to a warm battery after about 3 hours (I had two fully charged batteries: EN-EL3a, EN-EL3e).

Eventually (5 hours at -30c) the mirror slapped up and did not come back down (froze open?). After toggling the power switch a few times, it eventually released. I also started getting "this card cannot be used" errors. I was concerned that I would start corrupting the memory card and lose the photos I had already taken, so I decided to call it a day and go inside and warm up. I do not think there was any permanent damage from the shutter getting stuck as it has worked fine since then.

No issues with the lenses (12-24DX, 85/1.4, 10.5 DX), although the zoom ring on the 12-24 started to get stiff, but I never got the impression it was going to seize-up.

I wondered if the camera body would have lasted longer had I not been making so many lens changes, as opening up the camera let the cold get inside :biggrin:

In retrospect, it's good the camera gave-out as my toes were getting cold anyway :tongue:


At -15 celsius for about 6 hours:


No major issues with the camera or any of the lenses. The viewfinder LCD and back LCD became a bit sluggish after about 2 hours, but otherwise the operation of the camera was not affected. I got the sense the camera could have gone longer than 6 hours, but the sun was going down and I started heading back.

I started with fully charged batteries (x2) and swapped to a fresh/warm battery after approx 5 hours and 300 photos because the battery meter suddenly plummeted. I suspect the first battery would have recovered after being warmed up in my pants pocket, but I was not outside long enough to test this and the second battery held up until I got back inside.


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In all cases, the D70s was attached to a 681B monopod and RC head and exposed to the outside the whole time, and I didn't make any efforts to keep it warm or cover it up. I speculated that being attached to the aluminum monopod caused the camera body to cool down faster as the monopod was a giant cold-magnet, and that if I not used the monopod the camera may have performed better/longer. I also considered getting one of those chemical hand-warmers things and attaching it to the camera body to keep it warm, but never got around to it.

Also of note, When going from the outside back inside, I used zip lock bags on the camera body and each lens, and never had any issues with fogging/condensation (thanks to nikoncafe where I read this tip). Lenses that were not being used where carried in a lowepro backpack (so naturally, they were not exposed to the outside except while being used).
 
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Interesting report.

Since the camera was exposed to the low temperatures the entire time - i.e. not kept under a coat or something, I'm sure the entire camera soon reached ambient temperature (-30C) throughout, so opening it up would have no effect on its temperature. There could have been a moisture effect, but at that temperature I wouldn't expect any moisture problems either, unless you actually got snow or ice in it.

Are you sure your problems weren't simply caused by a battery weakened from the cold? Or there could have been some residual moisture which froze after exposure.
 
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Interesting report.

Since the camera was exposed to the low temperatures the entire time - i.e. not kept under a coat or something, I'm sure the entire camera soon reached ambient temperature (-30C) throughout, so opening it up would have no effect on its temperature. There could have been a moisture effect, but at that temperature I wouldn't expect any moisture problems either, unless you actually got snow or ice in it.

Are you sure your problems weren't simply caused by a battery weakened from the cold? Or there could have been some residual moisture which froze after exposure.


Those are good questions. It may have been battery related, as I had swapped to my second battery, and was running on it for about an hour before I started getting the weird behaviour - it is possible that my 2nd got worn down just enough to be the cause of the problems. Although I kept the 2nd battery warm, it would not have been as warm as the first battery from the start. I did try temporarily swapping my first battery back in, but it had not yet warmed up enough to usable so I stayed with the 2nd.

The moisture angle is a definite possibility especially with the shutter freeze-up, because there had been snow falling on me from trees during my time outside and I was changing lenses at various points. It is conceivable that some of this got into the camera and eventually froze.
 
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Interesting. My D200 in -15-20C didn't have write or LCD problems, but the battery was rather weak (1/2 normal life) as well as having one period where AF simply would not work. Was fine after warming up again. Odd.

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Interesting. My D200 in -15-20C didn't have write or LCD problems, but the battery was rather weak (1/2 normal life) as well as having one period where AF simply would not work. Was fine after warming up again. Odd.

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That is interesting, in my case, i did not experience any AF failures even down to -30C. I noticed the AF got a bit noisier on my screw-drive lens (85/1.4), though it seemed to focus just as quickly and accurately. I don't have any sample points between -15C and -26C so can't be sure where my failure point on the D70s might start - assuming of course that it wasn't related to moisture getting into the camera as noted above.
 
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Poor camera:>)))
If I were in those temps, I would be dead to......

:tongue: it's good the camera gave up when it did, forcing me to go inside, or I might have (foolishly) stayed outside for several more hours chasing the perfect shot and probably getting some frostbite -- I had heavy gloves, but of course who wants to operate a camera with gloves on :biggrin:
 

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