D800 or D800E for dance work

Discussion in 'Nikon FX DSLR Forum' started by etrigan63, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. Hi all.

    Back from a very long hiatus here. Moving back to Nikon and I am trying to settle on the D800 or D800E. I shoot dance, but this would also be my studio camera. Is the neutered AA filter on the E worth the extra $300? I am aware of the pitfalls that a missing AA filter brings (my walkabout camera is a Fuji X-E1 which lacks an AA filter).

    I am planning on acquiring the Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 lens for dance work and the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 and Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 for portraits. On the fence as to the 24-120 or save up for the 24-70.

    For the record, I've been shooting with the Sony A99 recently and while the files are great, the lack of third party support is driving me nuts. Plus, I get the feeling that the Sony answer to issues with the design (that could be corrected in firmware, BTW) is to create a new model and expect you to upgrade.

    Any and all comments are appreciated.
     
  2. seres

    seres

    Jan 25, 2009
    I have both, and I can get the same (or very, very similar) results by adjustments in PS. So I don't think it's worth the extra.

    One more thought... If I was going to primarily shoot dance, I think I would consider the D4. While either D800 would do a wonderful job, I find the D4's handling a little better, a little quicker. And if you generate many files, the memory cards don't fill up as fast on the D4.
     
  3. The D4 is way out of budget for me. I used to do this with a D700. Thanks for the tip on the D800. I have been looking at images online and have been hard pressed to see the difference.
     
  4. Kingfisher

    Kingfisher

    Dec 26, 2010
    Annapolis
    Unless you need to capture fast sequences on a continual basis theD800 should do fine. You won't go wrong with a D800.
     
  5. That only happens with modern dance where the moves are more spontaneous. Ballet has set moves and after a few years you know what is coming and can fire off a short burst with plenty of gap in between.

    As I said, I used to shoot this with a D700.

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  6. Kingfisher

    Kingfisher

    Dec 26, 2010
    Annapolis
    Yes, I agree. Very nice!!! You will have n problem with the D800. Just get it and enjoy.
     
  7. The D800 AF is pretty good. I'd say almost on par with the D3 and bit better than the D700. I think the difference between the D800 and D800E are negligible in real world use. You'll only see the difference in only the most controlled and deliberate conditions. I think using good glass and having good shooting technique are much more important.
     
  8. Tommo

    Tommo

    21
    Dec 2, 2012
    Perth Australia
    id rethink the sigma 120-300..it has very slow AF..might be too slow for what your after
     
  9. Where did you read this? All the stuff I've read on the new 120-300 f/2.8 OS HSM A1 lens has been that it is a stellar performer for the price. With the USB dock you can even adjust the focus speed to be even faster.
     
  10. Tommo

    Tommo

    21
    Dec 2, 2012
    Perth Australia
    I never read it..I tried it in store...it you haven't tried one..best do so before buying it..just to make sure you are happy with the AF
     
  11. Where do you live? Dealers in my area have no idea when they will get the lens, let alone a demo unit.

    EDIT: Just noticed that you live in Australia. That explains much.
     
  12. Tommo

    Tommo

    21
    Dec 2, 2012
    Perth Australia
    yep Perth Australia ..these guys have one in stock

    http://shop.cameraelectronic.com.au/Products/085126137540.html

    mind you it was a canon mount and coupled to a 5dm3..but i can't see that making much difference ..its about the same speed to focus at the 50 1.4G...which I consider a slow AF lens ...I compared it to my 70-200VR11 and that was almost twice as quick to AF

    its a superbly built lens though and if you can make it quicker to AF then it would be worth a looks..its also a big heavy beasty

    the perth sigma importer also had this massive curiosity there too..OT I know but intresting to see and touch

    sg200500dnka.

     
  13. I saw that monstrosity at PhotoPlus in NYC a couple of years ago. You have to wonder about a lens whose AF motors sport their own batteries.
     
  14. Well, I am happy to report that I am now the proud owner of a lightly used, well cared for Nikon D800e, 50mm f/1.8G & SB-800 flash. As soon as the rest of my kit sells on eBay, I will adding the MB-D12 grip, a Sigma 35mm f/1.4 A lens, and the Nikon 85mm f/1.8 lens. I have to decide which long zoom to go for, so I may rent till I decide which suits me best. My choices are: Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 + 1.4x TC II, Nikon 80-400mm, or Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 S (newest version).
     
  15. Tommo

    Tommo

    21
    Dec 2, 2012
    Perth Australia
    as you said in a previous post the 120-300 sigma can be adjusted using the USB dock to make Af a bit speedier ...but it does come at a sacrifice of AF accuracy..be interesting to see how much by

    is F5.6 lens going to be quick enough for low light dance ?..do you shoot @F5.6 regularly at these events...if yes, Id buy the 80-400 without question...if no Hmm...not sure you'd be happy with the 70-200 with 1.4TC...I have this lens coupled with a 1.7...and Af acquisition is poor in low light..great in bright conditions.

    bit of a pickle really....if you don't wanna shoot @F5.6 and you can get the sigma where you want it as far as AF speed and accuracy are concerned then that would be a good option

    what ISO are you shooting at with the A99?..and does the D800E bring any extra ISO headroom to help deal with shooting 400mm@f5.6

    congrats on getting the D800E the 50 G is a good fast lens...
     
  16. I was shooting up to ISO 5000 with the A99. The D800/D800e also can benefit from the noise reducing effects of shrinking the image. The plane of focus on this 50mm is very thin.

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  17. 73Z1

    73Z1

    Sep 15, 2008
    Sacramento
    Some people love their 24-120VR, but I have yet to see an image shot with that lens that impressed me. Quite a few adequate images, but nothing impressive, and plenty of sub-par stuff. Even the demo shots by Nikon were underwhelming. My 24-70 f/2.8 however has impressed me from day one. It is the only lens I have, where I will lower my standard PP sharpening by 10% due to it being so good. It is in the same class as my 300 f/2.8 which is stellar. Shoot either lens at f/5.6 and you can dial down the sharpening required. Shoot either one wide open, and you will still get excellent captures. The 24-70 focal range is limited, but the lens works superbly in that range. I use it on a D3 and D300 for events and group shots. I shot group shots at the Bonneville Salt Flats Speed Trials a couple weeks ago using a rented D800. The results were excellent, limited only by the skill of the photographer.
     
  18. If I ever get the silly A99 sold, I may have enough cash to pick up the 24-70 f/2.8 & the 70-200 f/2.8 VRII. Later on I can pick up a TC 1.4x if I need longer reach.
     
  19. Ronald M

    Ronald M

    Nov 10, 2008
    Chicago
    I get moire with my Leicas, not with the 800 E so far. The moire tool in ACR works decently. I see it on architecture mostly.

    If I did clothed people in a studio, plain 800. If I did food, flowers, catalog work, E is marginally sharper. Would never show at 8x10.
     
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