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Right now I use Elements 8 and Nikon Capture NX2. I do most of the work in NCNX2 and the clone in Elements 8. Recently I've been looking at Lightroom 4 and Elements 11 thinking I'm missing out on a lot of useful tools. I like the fact Lightroom lets you load lens profiles but I know Elements is easy to use. I'm not a pro so workflow and going through tons of photos on a regular basis isn't needed but good ease of use tools are. Capture NX2 from what I'm seeing is very outdated and the results I see from the other software and it's light control is what I'm looking for.

Truth is I don't know what I want. Going through the threads here is mind numbing. I know Elements so 11 might be the way to go but Lightroom and all the plug-ins and lens profiles sounds very appealing. Maybe both or neither. I don't want to make the $$ investment in photoshop being I'm just a hobbyist. Can anybody help the very confused? or point me to a thread you know of that will help.
 
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Lightroom is great! I haven't used Elements a single time since I switched to LR!

I would probably hold off for a short while since LR5 is around the corner... You can try the LR5 beta to see if you like it.

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Lightroom is great! I haven't used Elements a single time since I switched to LR!

I would probably hold off for a short while since LR5 is around the corner... You can try the LR5 beta to see if you like it.

Mike

I'll give it a try.
 
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I loaded the trial of Elements 11 and the healing brush with content aware is amazing!! I've removed all sorts of things in my photos just playing with it and seems to know just what you want to do.
 
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In reading your first post I would have been tempted to say use LR (but wait for new LR5) due to the lens profile that you seem interested in plus the non destructive nature of raw editing.

For many photographers LR is enough to take care of 80-90% of image correction and adjustment with the remaining 10-20% of images needing a trip to some form of pixel level editor such as PS

Your last post about the PSE11 trial you have highlighted the difference between the applications Photoshop Elements for its specialised tools such as Content Aware Healing/Scaling to name just one is necessary if you require to do this type of work.

Perhaps it is worthwhile also downloading the LR5 beta to have a play – be warned there is (like any complex app.) a learning curve but it should give you a flavour.

Also bear in mind that LR and Photoshop CS* Camera Raw implementation is full whereas PS Elements raw features have been hobbled. You can find the major differences listed here
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/camera-raw-differences-photoshop-photoshop.html
 
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In reading your first post I would have been tempted to say use LR (but wait for new LR5) due to the lens profile that you seem interested in plus the non destructive nature of raw editing.

For many photographers LR is enough to take care of 80-90% of image correction and adjustment with the remaining 10-20% of images needing a trip to some form of pixel level editor such as PS

Your last post about the PSE11 trial you have highlighted the difference between the applications Photoshop Elements for its specialised tools such as Content Aware Healing/Scaling to name just one is necessary if you require to do this type of work.

Perhaps it is worthwhile also downloading the LR5 beta to have a play – be warned there is (like any complex app.) a learning curve but it should give you a flavour.

Also bear in mind that LR and Photoshop CS* Camera Raw implementation is full whereas PS Elements raw features have been hobbled. You can find the major differences listed here
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/camera-raw-differences-photoshop-photoshop.html

I did load the beta of LR5 last night also and it's WAY over my head but anything new is going to be. I'm going to do some youtube searches for LR examples and give it a chance tonight. I know my way around with Elements having 8 now. I do want to take it to the next level. I sure wish Nikon would do something with Capture NX I like it a lot but it's lacking a lot also.
 
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I had a neighbor tell me that Photoshop was "old school". He only used LR and thinks he's wonderful. He also shoots Canon, so there you go.

I like Photoshop but haven't upgraded since I got CS4. It's just too expensive. I have PSE9 and just ordered PSE11, as more often than not, I use PSE. I also have a few of the Topaz add ons, and I just find it easier to do it all in PSE.

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Trying a few things at one time with Elements.

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You know, for $60, I think that I'd rather use ACDSee Pro 6 as it does basically everything Elements does and is a great viewer and DAM...
LINK to acdsee pro 6 offer...
But if you want to stay with Adobe, I'd go for LR5. Way more features and also a good DAM...

For me the biggest plus using NX2 is it keeps my in camera settings that I applied to the NEF files, unlike other programs that disregard those settings I applied.
Once I do my adjustments in CNX2, if I want to do anything with any another program, I'll save it as a Tiff and continue editing with the other program I chose to use...
But I don't process every photo I take, but if I have to convert a whole bunch of NEF's to JPG, I use CNX2 Batch to do it as I can apply my pre-sets adjustments to the jpgs...
OK, CNX2 might not be as quick as some others, but then again, when I start the batch going, I go and do something else... :wink:... :smile:...
 
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I really do like Capture NX2 and the in camera settings being applied. I bought Elements 11 and it's miles above my old Elements 8. The healing brush is way better in 11 than NX2 and 11 has clone that's very handy.
 
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Right now I use Elements 8 and Nikon Capture NX2. I do most of the work in NCNX2 and the clone in Elements 8. Recently I've been looking at Lightroom 4 and Elements 11 thinking I'm missing out on a lot of useful tools. I like the fact Lightroom lets you load lens profiles but I know Elements is easy to use. I'm not a pro so workflow and going through tons of photos on a regular basis isn't needed but good ease of use tools are. Capture NX2 from what I'm seeing is very outdated and the results I see from the other software and it's light control is what I'm looking for.

Truth is I don't know what I want. Going through the threads here is mind numbing. I know Elements so 11 might be the way to go but Lightroom and all the plug-ins and lens profiles sounds very appealing. Maybe both or neither. I don't want to make the $$ investment in photoshop being I'm just a hobbyist. Can anybody help the very confused? or point me to a thread you know of that will help.

I'm in the same situation. I debated between LightRoom 5 and Elements 11. Last night, I downloaded the trial version of LR 5. It is a very powerful piece of software with a lot of features. I'll download the trail of Elements 11 in a few days and make a decision.

You could do a lot worse than spending a few hours in the company of Julieanne Kost videos :smile: http://tv.adobe.com/show/getting-started-with-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-4/

I've spent several hours watching her videos. This lady really knows LR and her ability to share is a very valuable tool for folks like me.
 
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There are a lot of plug ins available for Elements as well. Check out the Topaz group. I have a few of them and will be getting more when the budget permits.

http://www.topazlabs.com/

You can download a 30 day trial. They also have really terrific webinars where they show you how to do a lot of stuff with the plug ins.

Carole
 
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After using PSE6 on top of View/Capture NX2 for years I upgraded to PSE11. It is worth it just for the content aware healing brush tool. The interface is much nicer once you get used to it too. Add Topaz NR and Clarity and you're set if you don't need to process large volumes of images. I've had LR for several months and haven't gotten around to using it yet.
 
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I've been using Elements 11, Topaz B&W effects and Lens Effects along with Capture NX2. This combination is doing all that I need.

Topaz products are good and easy to use.
 

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