Epson R1800 prints are very dark

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Has anyone else experienced this issue: I purchased a new Toshiba laptop, a P875-S7102, Windows 8, as an upgrade to my previous Toshiba laptop. This new laptop is my primary photo processor. What I am finding is my prints are coming out about 1 1/2 to 2 stops darker than they appear on the laptop monitor. I have not had this issue in the past with either my old laptop or my Dell PC. The monitor on the new laptop has been color calibrated using a Spyder Pro 4.
Am I missing a setting between the laptop and the R1800? I have checked everything I can think of. It doesn't matter if I am which photo editor I use, CS6, LR5 or NX2. ICM on the printer is set to off.

Any suggestions?
 
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This issue is very common and can often be attributed to incorrect setting of monitor luminence, although of course there can be many other reasons.

No one can actually give you a figure unless they first know/experience the viewing/editing conditions you are working under and just as importantly how you are illuminating the print when comparing against the monitor. When isolated from the monitor and in a position where the print would be viewed normally how does it look?

Print viewing conditions are often missed in suggestions but if your white point and brightness of the monitor does not match that of your print media closely then you are at a disadvantage.

Do these replies offer any insight to your issues
Monitor luminence
https://www.nikoncafe.com/vforums/showpost.php?p=4094623&postcount=10
Controlled lighting
https://www.nikoncafe.com/vforums/showpost.php?p=4201442&postcount=2
 
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Thanks Tony.
I re-did the calibration with the Spyder 4 and set the Gamma level differently. That did the trick.
 
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Pleased to hear that recalibration worked. Did you mean Luminence/Brightness/Intensity of monitor because Gamma would normally be set to 2.2 and left at that either PC or Mac?
 
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I reckon the most usual cause of prints too dark is screen too bright. See http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/why_are_my_prints_too_dark.shtml and http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/colour_management/prints_too_dark.html for example.

Try this: in normal room lighting, hold a blank piece of printer paper next to the screen. Are whites on the screen brighter than the paper? If so, prints are likely to look darker than the screen.

Depending on room lighting, a screen brightness of 80-120cd/m2 is probably about right. At default settings, most monitors are much, much brighter.
 
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Hi Simon,
Thanks for the links. I did not think about the monitor being too bright. I will give it a shot.
 
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