Formula 1, Schu coming back!

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This is terrible news. I certainly hope that Massa recovers nicely, but I have never liked the red cars, and I certainly never liked Schumacher. Any other team in this position would give a young driver a shot to move up, considering there is no way that Ferrari can win the Constructor's and I am fairly certain that even if Schu won every single race from Valencia onwards, it would still be mathematically impossible to win the championship. Schumacher made F1 boring. I am not denying that he wasn't great, he certainly was. It was just dull. There wasn't much point in watching.
I understand what you say about Schu kinda making it boring, if you weren't a ferrari fan. But i for one am a BIG one, especially of Schumacher. I haven't been as into it this year, it just seemed to be missing things. I don't like the KERS system and what they were trying to do with the team cap, especially with how the cars look. I've been saying that the cars need to go back to how they used to look when things were wider.

Has anyone else heard of F1 thinking of changing from the V8, to a turbo V6?
 
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I heard on BBC a while ago that BMW is pulling out at the end of this season because of money.
That and the fact they are one of the worst teams in F1. I bet if they had a competitive car they wouldnt complain about money..
 
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No clue who they are so I feel better now. :smile:
Ferrari drivers from the 70's. That's about the time I started paying attention to F1. I was in jr High, and one of my friends older brothers had F1 posters in his room. I remember thinking how cool those cars looked.

Has anyone else heard of F1 thinking of changing from the V8, to a turbo V6?
They ran V6 turbos in the 80's. I think the rule was you could run a 1.5 litre turbo, or a 3.0 litre non-turbo. Prost/Senna era, right Steve?

So, yes I'll be interested to see how this plays out...
 
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Of course I'm a Ferrari supporter, and I'm sure that Schumi is one of the best drivers in F1 history, but I was hoping for a young driver like Bortolotti.
Anyway reading the replies in this thread I can understand that Schumi has brought back a lot of interest in F1...

He is 40 years old (afaik) but there are some examples of old drivers winning races and/or championships: Lauda, Mansell, Prost, ???

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This is great news, makes the wife happy. I know he is testing, but I wonder if his competition skills are rusty, guess we will find out soon, trials should be interesting. If it rains, everyone might as quit and let Schui have it, but Hamilton drives pretty well in the wet. Wonder what they will pay him, he was getting over a million and 1/2 when he quit.
He was making 40 million pounds a year - so about 2.2 million pounds per race

I am sure that he will be very competitive - that is the type of guy that he is
Also, he has been around the team since he retired - so he will be fully up to date on the new cars, new technology and new strategies
 
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he will be fully up to date on the new cars, new technology and new strategies
He had not the chance to try the new car because of test limitation for this season.
So he will discover it for the first time on a raceway during the practice of the next race.

Anyway Ferrari has a sophisticated simulator that can mimic very well the car and the tires. I think that he will play with it a lot...
 
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I'm excited to see Schumi race again for sure. With both Michael's return as well as Lance in the Tour this, for me, has been a great year in the sports I follow.......... :)
 
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I'm glad Schumi is back... He started racing back in the early 90's when drivers were still drivers (Prost, Senna, etc.)... That's why he was able to wipe the floor pretty much all the time against these new kids. I agree, the season where Alonso and Schumi raced off was very exciting, but with Alonso's car being so bad this year that a tire fell off (ok that's due to the pit crew more than the car), and Ferrari's not that much better, I can see this turn out differently.

As for Hamilton, he was champion last year, and the only time he finished on podium this year was in Hungary. His best to date was 4th place, and he placed in the 10's almost half a dozen times. And let's not forget, if Timo Glock wouldn't have let him pass on that last corner during that last race in Brazil (which Massa won), Massa would've won the championship by 1 point! Seeing Massa lose that year's championship was the hardest thing for me to see.

But not for nothing, this year's F1 races have been very exciting. Brawn GP winning the first 6 out of 7, then Red Bull scoring victories, now Schumi coming back? Races haven't been this exciting in years! :biggrin:
 
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let's not forget, if Timo Glock wouldn't have let him pass on that last corner during that last race in Brazil (which Massa won), Massa would've won the championship by 1 point! Seeing Massa lose that year's championship was the hardest thing for me to see
It would be more politically correct to say that if Massa's engine didn't blow up during Hungaroring race he would have won that season with a good margin.
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I bet, they are selling some tickets the next races.

I never was a fanatic Schumi fan (actually a big, big Villeneuve fan, when he was racing at it's peak against Schuhmacher - remember the Canada crash at the Casino hairpin very well). Schumacher is certainly one of the greatest and most sophisticated drivers in F1 history and it will be a joy to follow the next races.

I feel quite sad about the BMW news - I loved the sound of the BMW V8 on the track and might be able, to listen to it only one time this year. I hope, the team can continue, as there are quite a few interesting teams, who want a start in F1 in 2010. Might give another name change then - maybe with BMW engines (I would be happy - the sound remains).

I hope Massa get's well soon and will be racing again. I am not a huge Massa/ Ferrari fan either, but I followed the race live on TV and the accident was a shock!

When the first replays of the object hitting his helmet and then the news, it was a spring came out, I fully comprehended the level of the accidents, as I was involved in the design of dampers and springs of a similar size and fully understand, what kind of damage such mass can produce at this speed.

His reaction (or the lack of) after the impact was absolutely horrible to my understanding of the situation (he did'nt even took the hands off the wheel and first footage showed a still full running engine when the medics moved in!!!).

I am really glad, this loved sport did not cause another death so shortly after Surtees tragic end in F2.
 
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Seeing Massa lose that year's championship was the hardest thing for me to see.

But not for nothing, this year's F1 races have been very exciting. Brawn GP winning the first 6 out of 7, then Red Bull scoring victories, now Schumi coming back? Races haven't been this exciting in years! :biggrin:
Seeing Massa lose because Glock let Hamilton pass, was pretty disgusting.

Actually, the two last years were far more exciting than this year. Two years ago we had 4 guys fighting for the title until the very end. Last year we had the most incredible finish to the season ever, but it was ruined by Glock.
 
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Seeing Massa lose because Glock let Hamilton pass, was pretty disgusting.

Actually, the two last years were far more exciting than this year. Two years ago we had 4 guys fighting for the title until the very end. Last year we had the most incredible finish to the season ever, but it was ruined by Glock.
With all the rules changes since Schumacher quit, it should be some very interesting races. Seems anything can happen this year, Brawn has been amazing.
 
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I'd hate to see BMW leave, but look at what happened when Honda left....Brawn came in and they are a strong team....really strong. Maybe if BMW leaves, it will open the door for someone who can be more of a competition to come in kind of like Brawn did.

As to the "let a newcomer come in". If you read the link...one of the big reasons they are bringing Schumacher back is because he's not a newcomer and will be ZERO threat to Massa's position on the team. If they brought in a newcomer that drove like Hamilton did in his first 3 races of F1, it could potentially be a threat to Massa (though I personally doubt it)....and I think they want to avoid doing that. It's all about winning races and having Schumacher behind the car is their greatest chance for that happening right now.

A lot has changed since Schumacher left though...for example the lack of Traction Control that took all the other drivers awhile to adapt. Will be interesting to see how he handles it...especially if he gets little to no seat time before the practice/race.
 
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I am pretty confident, he handles the new parts and rules very well. That man is a machine!

He gets programmed now in the Sim and will have not one spin in the race after checking the boarders in training.

I would not even wonder, if he gives Raikonnen a good race for the money.
 
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Schumi will bring some viewers back, but I bet Kimi is not calm about it. Without Ross Braun to manage the action, it's unlikely that MS will have a car he's happy with. MS was only one part of a winning organization and the red organization has been scattering to the wind over the last 1/2 season. I have no doubt MS will be competitive, but it takes more than a driver to win a race.

F1 has signed the new Concorde agreement, so there will not be a competing manufacturer's series.

What F1 needs is for Bernie Ecclestone and Charlie Whiting to retire. It's unbelievable that they allowed Kimi to intentionally bash other cars at the start of Hungary without penalty, yet they suspended Renault for cross threading a wheel nut. How do you spell "m a n i p u l a t i o n"?

As for the departure of BMW...watch for Mario Thiessen to show up with USF1! The corporate teams are the well-spring that's accellerated budgets to the stratosphere. A return to the back-yard mechanic/driver days of Hill, Gurney, Chapman et. al. would improve the sport immeasurably. Honda proved the folly of throwing money at a committee driven team.
 
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As to the "let a newcomer come in". If you read the link...one of the big reasons they are bringing Schumacher back is because he's not a newcomer and will be ZERO threat to Massa's position on the team. If they brought in a newcomer that drove like Hamilton did in his first 3 races of F1, it could potentially be a threat to Massa (though I personally doubt it)....and I think they want to avoid doing that. It's all about winning races and having Schumacher behind the car is their greatest chance for that happening right now.
That and their test drivers are 40 too.

Would anyone really consider Luca Baduor as a viable alternative? He stank when he was young.
 
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Agree Pete, but the wheel nut decision on the Renault team was very valid in the connection to a higher sensivity of the incidents happened in the last weeks.

All involved persons must be reminded, that knowingly driving a car around the circuit with a loose wheel, that can go off every second is downright dangerous.

At least there is not only the competitors and track marshals at danger. A few thousand people visit these tracks on race day. Driving a 3 wheeler around the circuit at controllable speed is one thing - going around with a loose wheel, knowingly the nut is loose and the wheel can come off is not managing the risks and must be punished.
 
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i was so shocked and excited when i read the news. i hope he can be competitive. i imagine he will spending a lot of time on the track on fridays getting in as many laps as he can. i wonder if he would have stepped in if this happened earlier in the year when Ferrari was looking really bad. as least they are showing some signs of pace in the last few races.
 
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