Gonna sound dumb, but how do you WB with a grey card?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Steve S, Jul 28, 2005.

  1. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    I want to get a grey card to use in the studio, but don't know how to use it. Do I set my cam up for a "pre" WB reading, then just fill the frame with the grey card and shoot it with my strobes? Is that all there is to it?

    Also, does ANYONE know where I can get this Gretag-Macbeth Neutral #8 card that Iliah mentioned in another thread? I can't find it anywhere!

    One last request, what do you all think of this Lasolite collapsable Grey card for WB'ing in the field?
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...s=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=375212
     
  2. Chris101

    Chris101

    Feb 2, 2005
    Arizona
    http://www.gretagmacbeth.com/index/products/products_color-standards.htm

    I do WB with a gray card by including one in a setup photo under the same lighting I will take the photos with. Then, in Photoshop's ACR, I click the gray area with the eyedropper tool, and voila - the WB is set.

    You could also do it the way you suggest. The back side of the gray card is white, and that maybe a better choice for setting a pre-WB.
     
  3. MontyDog

    MontyDog

    Jan 30, 2005
    #1064 - You have an error in your SQL syntax;
     
  4. SteveS, just make sure you set your focus to manual before shooting the grey card.

    I got a bunch of the QP cards from B&H. Very good for tricky lighting: you put a small QPCard on the subject, has black grey & white, shoot your first shot, and then use that for contrast and color setting in Photoshop in Curves. You then save the setting as an ".acv" profile and then apply it to any further shots of the same lighting.
     
  5. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    Thanks for the tip on the "acv" file, but

    what's a QP card? I suppose this can also be done in NC4?
     
  6. Jarrell

    Jarrell

    Feb 13, 2005
    Macon, Ga.
    Steven, in studio conditions where the light is going to remain constant (color temp wise, I mean), I place a gray card in the 'scene' and photograph it, using the studio lights, of course. I then proceed with the rest of the shoot. Later I open that first shot in Nikon Capture Editor and set the white balance using the eye dropper technique (under the White Balance tab.) If a correction in exposure is needed I do that also. With that shot still open I open the photo of the subject I'm going to work on and make any exposure corrections necessary. At that point I click on the gray card shot and go to Edit, copy image adjustments... and in the opening dialog box I choose White Balance. Then make the subjects photo active and go to edit paste. I've found that this will gets me in the very close ballpark but not right on the money each time. I've also found that there are differences in gray cards as we all know by now.
    One day all this may be behind us, perfect WB every shot all the time.
    Yeah... right..
    Jarrell
     
  7. Steve S

    Steve S

    Feb 1, 2005
    SE Florida
    Thanks Jarrell, I've got 2 shoots this weekend,

    both of them outdoors, you know, the so-called "environmental" portraits. Right now, all I have is a Gretag-Mac White card and a Gretag-Mac Colorchecker. So, I'll put both of those in the shot, and see which gives me the best WB. I absolutely hate trying to balance skintones after the fact.

    Btw, I just ordered the "Whi-Bal" White-Black-Light/Dark Grey combo cards that Joe Marques highly recommends. Got both the "pocket" size for in the field, and the bigger, studio size in a combo pack.
     
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