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Discussion in 'Birds' started by Gordon Large, Jul 16, 2007.
More photos from Brigantine -
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Great shots Gordon
A little dark on my monitor but very well done.
Bit better on the whites:>)))
Looks like you had a great time at Brigatine! Great shots.
You're right Gordon! The last image is terrific!! Thanks for making me smile! :biggrin:
Thanks Gary. I never stop down enough for white birds, but this time I came pretty close so the trees are very dark. I kind of like the effect. How does the egret look on your monitor?
Just a bit? Aw Gale, give a guy a break. LOL.
Thanks Mark. Yup, it was a great day. More birds than I expected, which is always a nice surprise.
Hey, Crystall. It makes me smile too, and it's going to end up on a wall somethere in my house. Might have to take down a photo of a grandchild. LOL.
Gordon - the shots are great. Last one is really great. I would, if I was you & have NX, lighten the shots a little. I feel they're just a tad too dark. With NX point system you can easily leave the Egret exposed as you've done (or lightened up a tad on especially #2) while lightening up the trees. You have a difficult situation in shooting white egrets - you have to expose for the bird (I learned the hard way) but that tends to mean that the background turns dark. But the shots are great & a little pp is just that - a little pp.
Thanks for sharing your great shots. - It's your vision, so who's to argue with your choices...
Nice set Gordon. Where is Brigantine?
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You have some good shots there. I do think that the one pose is very funny. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Lil. I have learned about exposing for the bird, also the hard way, but if you happened to see the other egret shots I posted recently I still find it hard to do consistently. I have NX but I haven't tried or learned it yet. I hope to start learning and working with it soon and, when I do, these images will be a perfect place to start. If I'm successful, I'll repost before and after images.
I really like your comment about my vision, and your tag line about yours. It's a wonderful way to think about photography or any art form.
Hey Frank, thanks for the nice comment. Brigantine is just North of Atlantic City on the Jersey shore. You can see the casinos and hotels in the distance. We call it Brigantine because that's where it is, and also because Edwin B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge would be a bit much to say. It's a typical NWR; an 8 mile squarish drive with four quite different impoundments inside and a channel and marshland on the outside. Both can be very productive, and I always go with a shooting buddy so one of us can sit in front and one in the back, and both of us can shoot out of either window. Neat place to shoot.
Thanks for the clarification, Gale. I really thought that is what you meant (the smiley face was a pretty good clue), but I had to give you a little grief but just in fun. As I said in my response to your comments about my way overexposed egrets in the other post I made, I love the way you say what you think without pulling any punches. Keep it up!
Thanks Ed. As I told someone else the funny pose is going to end up on a wall somewhere even if a photo of a grandchild has to lose its place.
Hi again Gordon, I've been a little absent of late. I suffer from chronic headaches & at times they get so bad I am not able to do much. So at times I disappear. ;-) I'll look for them. Anyhow, it's hard to photography white egrets - especially against a dark background. You have to underexpose for the egret, but that makes your background very dark. But just go ahead and do that - underexpose for the egret & bring your background up with NX. Through the point system you'll be able to bring up the background to where you want it with ease- especially if you shoot RAW. Nikon have short tutorials on their NX web site. Watch them & get a great quick start.
This is supposed to be your vision. There are technical aspects, but you have a vision & that's what you're supposed to be true to. Don't ever loose that. Anyhow, in this situation there's no way you can expose for both the egret & the background. You have to expose for the egret. Also, it serves to isolate the bird.
Have fun shooting & thanks for sharing.:smile:
Nice series Gordon and yes the BG is making the photo look very dark but the whites are perfect. Hope you don't mind but I took that last one and placed the lasso tool around the bird and went to select and inverse. (PSCS) I than hit the shadow highlight tool and it brought the BG up a bit better but still needed a bit more so I ran the dodge tool all over the bg not worrying about the bird as I had it isolated by the lasso tool. When done dodging I faded the dodge tool 50% and this is what I got. Again hope you don't mind me trying it out. There is a little spot on the bird. I left it for you to see in case you wanted to clone it out. This is a relly nice photo.
Hi Lou - I don't mind at all, and in fact I'm glad you did this because it (and others' comments) got me to think I ought to try my own fix. I shot in RAW, so I've got more room for adjustments than you did working with my JPEG. Stay tuned....