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Great start to a great F1 race
- Thread starter Greg
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Greg, I hate to be a dummy, but what is an F1 race?
Virginia
aka beaucamera
Virginia
aka beaucamera
Beaucamera,
F1 stands for Formule 1. It are european race cars. They look like Indy cars as you know them. Maybe the name Micheal Schumacher rings a bell (Ferrari team) I even think that Micheal Andretti has driven one. A young driver named Montoya won the indy car championship a few years ago (as a rookie) is now driving Fomule One with BMW. Here's a pic of a F1 race car > http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/Renault F1.jpg < This picture shows a Renault F1 car and it's been driven by a test pilot. I made this one at the Belgian race track named Zolder.
Kind Regards
Johan
F1 stands for Formule 1. It are european race cars. They look like Indy cars as you know them. Maybe the name Micheal Schumacher rings a bell (Ferrari team) I even think that Micheal Andretti has driven one. A young driver named Montoya won the indy car championship a few years ago (as a rookie) is now driving Fomule One with BMW. Here's a pic of a F1 race car > http://users.pandora.be/jokke1/Photography/B.Cars/Renault F1.jpg < This picture shows a Renault F1 car and it's been driven by a test pilot. I made this one at the Belgian race track named Zolder.
Kind Regards
Johan
Boy, those are pretty fancy wheels! Thanks, Johan, for the picture and the explanation.
Virginia
aka beaucamera
Virginia
aka beaucamera
He drives for McLaren now.Johan said:
A great start for a crummy race. Leave it to FIA to get itself tossed from the US! Hundreds of million dollars were spent to setup this race and they blunder into an ego-based decision and essentially guarantee abandonment by the US viewing public and commercial sponsors.
Background. The Indy oval was repaved since tha last F1 race. The paving contractor did a very poor job and the track had to be "shaved" with a diamond machine twice. After that it proved acceptably smooth. However Michelin did not do their homework and re-test the track sufficiently (Bridgestone did) and built tires which failed pretty predictably. Michelin would not certify their tires at Indy. Michelin asked to put in a chicane (tight turn) to slow the speed to save the race and keep enough cars in competition. The Indy management agreed to do this but FIA, the Formula 1 governing body (or maybe one decision-maker?) refused and threatened to un-sanction the race if the chicane was placed on the track. As a result all but six cars pulled off the track after one lap. People in the crowd came from as far away as Chile. They were booing throughout the race and during the winning ceremony.
I wonder which company(s) will want to sponsor a race where the rule makers are indifferent to manufacturers and fans getting deprived of an opportunity to see the race and effectively throw away tens of millions of dollars?
The more things change, the more they remain the same. Ego's and money is all that seem to count these days.
Rich
Background. The Indy oval was repaved since tha last F1 race. The paving contractor did a very poor job and the track had to be "shaved" with a diamond machine twice. After that it proved acceptably smooth. However Michelin did not do their homework and re-test the track sufficiently (Bridgestone did) and built tires which failed pretty predictably. Michelin would not certify their tires at Indy. Michelin asked to put in a chicane (tight turn) to slow the speed to save the race and keep enough cars in competition. The Indy management agreed to do this but FIA, the Formula 1 governing body (or maybe one decision-maker?) refused and threatened to un-sanction the race if the chicane was placed on the track. As a result all but six cars pulled off the track after one lap. People in the crowd came from as far away as Chile. They were booing throughout the race and during the winning ceremony.
I wonder which company(s) will want to sponsor a race where the rule makers are indifferent to manufacturers and fans getting deprived of an opportunity to see the race and effectively throw away tens of millions of dollars?
The more things change, the more they remain the same. Ego's and money is all that seem to count these days.
Rich
Hmmm....with pics like those Greg, I doubt I'll be letting Patrick travel with you anymore!!!! :? Where are the pics of the cars....it was a RACE, was it not???? Even w/just 6 cars on the track, you should have gotten a few shots, not just girls! lol 8) Let's see those speed shots too!
I doubt that these Girls were very speedy! (Even my "cheap D70" would have gotten those, although not with 12MP :wink: ) as were the most of the F1 Teams today!Leigh said:
It's a shame this Sport gave such a bad impression to all of you, in the only US Race!
BTW:
I allways liked the Brakes on these Cars..... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
Rich,
first of all thanks for the information you have given us about last race weekend. I have heard similar things and have heard motorsports specialists opinion before. It's indeed sad to see how everything goes these days... so I go with the "booing public". F1 is too expensive and in a way too high tech and that makes it less attractive than for example a touring car championship. And I'm not the only one who share this opinion.
However ... Keep shooting them
Regards
first of all thanks for the information you have given us about last race weekend. I have heard similar things and have heard motorsports specialists opinion before. It's indeed sad to see how everything goes these days... so I go with the "booing public". F1 is too expensive and in a way too high tech and that makes it less attractive than for example a touring car championship. And I'm not the only one who share this opinion.
However ... Keep shooting them
Regards
Another nail in the coffin of open-wheel racing in the USA. The CART / IRL split years back almost killed it, and what happened today sure will not be drawing people to open-wheel racing.
The only hope is sex appeal of Danica Patrick. :shock:
The only hope is sex appeal of Danica Patrick. :shock:
interesting perspective Greg. I may need to go to one of these er, ah "races"
My bro-in-law's nephew just returned from the race
First of all, thanks for the great people shots. Greg. Never tire of those!
Matt told us about 14 of the 20 cars going off the course after the parade lap, & only 6 lousy cars actually competing in the race! What a shame & a travesty! He said ppl booed during the whole race & awards ceremony. What a sad state of affairs.
First of all, thanks for the great people shots. Greg. Never tire of those!
Matt told us about 14 of the 20 cars going off the course after the parade lap, & only 6 lousy cars actually competing in the race! What a shame & a travesty! He said ppl booed during the whole race & awards ceremony. What a sad state of affairs.
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Wow, I didn't even keep up with the F1 race although I knew it was coming up. F1 has always had its politics. While in my opinion it is the greatest racing in the world with some of the best drivers on the planet, it seems the engine that runs the F1 is a bottleneck to the sport become more than what it currently is. I can only imagine how upset some people were considering all the great things I heard about last years race.
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