Having made a complete mess of the firest post I came to the conclusion that I was making it too complicated, and have therefore amended the titles and also the way that we post the URLs. This has just worked fine on Pam's post in Landscapes so let us hope it works here. My apologises if you have seen 2 of them before but I thought that some of the newer members may like to see them, Number 1. Hummingbird Hawkmoth feeding from the left hand side. Number 2, As above, but coming from the right. I have this as my desktop wallpaper on my laptop and really like it. Number 3. A Broad Bordered Bee Hawkmoths. Notice the way this moth actually supports itself by resting the front legs on the flower. Number 4. This is a rather rare hawkmoth that I just managed to snap as it took off. Number 5. Again a HBHM but showing how they start to unfurl their tongue before they reach the flower. Bob F.