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How slow is the AF on the 80-200 push-pull?

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by DFP51, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. DFP51

    DFP51

    49
    Oct 3, 2006
    Hello, I need a zoom for kids indoor volleyball and football. I understand that the AF on the 80-200 push pull is slower than on the two ring, but is it unusable for kids' sports? Looking at KEH, a push pull is about $350 less than a two ring, and I am not sure if the two ring is worth the difference. FYI I shoot with a D80.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. mematsu

    mematsu

    May 2, 2007
    los angeles
    Infinity to close focus is somewhat slow. I imagine if you kept it at the approx distance and tracked your subjects it would work just fine.

    Optically speaking, it was very good. Keh does grant a 14-day return. Not fast enough will be best judged by you.

    Personally, I would go the two ring route. Many posters here comment that the two ring focuses pretty quick.

    I just picked up a Sigma II and it's focus is very quick. Also, it looks like the Tamron is a very good choice.

    Good luck.
     
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  3. No complaints here with a D80 and 80-200 2.8 D Push Pull combo. As stated before, from minimum to maximum focus distance it's a bit pokey but for tracking subjects on the move, it works well. I generally use mine for swimming but this weekend was tracking some kids running around a park and had zero problems in AF-C mode.
     
  4. thebac

    thebac

    329
    Jul 23, 2007
    US
    This topic comes up periodically, so a search might yield some further feedback.

    Anyway, my 2 cents: Very slow. For sports, I would definitely pick the two-ring over the push-pull. Alternatively, as John mentioned, the Sigma might be a good alternative. I'm not so sure the new Tamron focuses fast, though.

    I've used both lenses on a D70 and a D2h to compare, and the push-pull was much slower than the two-ring, it's no contest.

    For volleyball, given your proximity to the action, the push-pull is probably much too slow. Also, if volleyball will be your primary interest, you might be better off with a 50/1.4 or an 85/1.8. Indoors (especially in poorly lit HS gyms), f/2.8 really isn't that fast.

    For football, you might get away with a push-pull because you're fairly far from the field and the focusing distance is a) much closer to infinity and b) fairly constant.
     
  5. drschurch

    drschurch

    75
    May 15, 2008
    Dandridge, Tn
    I use a push-pull for most of my day to day stuff, and find it fast enough if I set the focus limiter. I used it for a couple years as a white water photog and never had any problems with the focus speed. I will say that I have never tried a 2 ring version or any AF-S lens for that matter. Hope that helps.
     
  6. DFP51

    DFP51

    49
    Oct 3, 2006
    Thanks guys. I have thought about using the 85 1.8 for volleyball. I am not impressed with the focus speed on the 85 (I have used it for gymnastics), but I doubt the girls will be moving all that fast, since they are in the 4th grade and just starting.

    I am really struggling with picking up a push pull 80-200 or the 70-300vr for junior high football (and baseball/softball in the summers) though.

    And Thebac, I am sure this topic has come up, I am just too much of a moron to construct a reasonable search.
     
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  7. thebac

    thebac

    329
    Jul 23, 2007
    US
    True, the search engine here is kind of a pain.

    Anyway, if you don't like the focus speed of the 85/1.8, you probably won't like the focus speed of the push pull 80-200/2.8. Compared to the push pull, the 85/1.8 is lightning fast in my recollection.

    Of course, with fourth graders, you can probably get by with a slower-focusing lens.
     
  8. Nuteshack

    Nuteshack Guest

    the push is SLOW but i don't use for inside sports on the d200...need faster glass for that...;-)
     
  9. KeithR

    KeithR

    710
    Jun 21, 2008
    Minnesota
    I have had the 80-200 AF-D(push-pull), the AF-S D(2 ring) and currently the 70-200 AF-S VR. Of all the push pull was the slowest as far as focusing. It is screw driven where as the AF-S versions has the focusing motor in the lens(the S is for "Silent Wave"). You will probably be ok with it, but don't ever touch an AF-S lens. If you do, you won't let go. 8^)
     
  10. Sharp but slow, save your pennies for an AF-D two ring at least.
     
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