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I got quite skilled at shooting while moving. We often escorted Vets and I'd be shooting whatever I saw along the road etc. This was my first time to do this. Though it was gorgeous and fun, I missed out on so many beautiful photos! I've asked next trip we take, lets plan so we have equal ops - riding and photos.View attachment 1661635
Hpwever, riding the Dragon is significantly different, as you should now know. The very sharp curves are very close together. Both driver and rider need to be shifting their weight constantly and in unison. I can't imagine safely shooting a DSLR in those conditions. Better to stop off the road and shoot other riders as they pass by.
 
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Time for a Z body.. the Z50 is very small and very light.. but the Z6/7 have the IBIS that the Z50 doesnt have...
better yet, a Gopro with helmet mount.
 
I guess because things have opened up in the Southern states, you guys are / were more easily able to travel, and willing to do so even as this pandemic thing has not quite settled down yet around the entire US.... My densely-populated urban area is still locked down and rightfully so, since we are still seeing a lot of hospitalizations and deaths. Personally, I have no plans to travel anywhere for quite a while, either.

Back in the summer of 2018 I purchased a Sony RX10 M4 (24-600mm, 1" sensor, 35mm equiv "bridge" camera) because I had a specific purpose for it and at that time figured that, well, maybe afterward, I'd use it around home now and then.....little did I realize how much I would discover how useful it was, immediately fall in love with the thing and use it more than I ever would've imagined, for more than a year, while my other gear sat ignored...... It's the size of a small, lightweight DSLR. It's just a fun camera to use! The lens on this thing is really amazing and I really wonder how Sony managed to pull this off. I still love this camera and actually just today, hurriedly grabbed it out of the cabinet for a quick look at something going on across the lake (that 600mm focal distance comes in handy!) and then went ahead with a couple of captures of what I was seeing.... It's an ideal travel camera, although I have used it for that purpose only a few times, as usually the smaller RX100 goes with me. The RX10 M4 is not at all a pocket-sized camera, which is why I didn't mention it earlier. It's the Big Brother to my Sony RX100 M7, and while they share many similarities and features, there are also significant differences.

This past November of 2019 I made the final (and total) leap from Nikon to Sony by trading in all my Nikon gear and my old Sony NEX-7 and the three lenses I had for it on a Sony A7R IV and three full-frame E-mount lenses, two of them being macro; since then I've added a few more lenses but am trying to be more thoughtful this time around and really assessing what lenses I want versus what lenses I'll actually use a number of times over the years. Macro was my top priority, and I have used that 90mm f/2.8 macro lens the most over the past several months even though I have other options. Abstracts and macro definitely seem to be my preferred ways of exploring and sharing images. My primary reason for not going with Nikon mirrorless was that there were no macro lenses offered at the beginning of Nikon's release of its Z series, and as far as I know, at this point in time, although there are now a couple of macro lenses listed on their updated roadmap, there are still none actually available in users' hands and mounted as native lenses on their Z series cameras.... I was not and still am not interested in messing around with adapters, third-party lenses and all that. I love my Sony gear and feel that I've gotten some really nice images with it, but, yes, there is still a part of me which will always be sad at saying goodbye to Nikon.....
 
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Hey Connie! Well, Arkansas, Tennessee, and North Carolina were all mostly closed. If we wanted to eat it was either a drive through unless we found a mom and pop place that didn't care about the rules. Some restaurants had seating spaced by putting reserved on the tables that they wanted to use for spacing the customers out. At one Cracker barrel, they actually had seating both inside and out. I tried very hard to get mark to postpone this trip but he wouldn't listen. Most of it was to ride during the week, so we would avoid the weekend crowds. As for cameras - I also have a Sony RX10. I had it with me on the trip, but didn't use it. When I talked about being afraid to ride with my camera - I have a darned good example of why. I ended up falling off when we ended up on a steep incline and Mark couldn't keep the bike from going over. We were not hurt, nor the bike. I'm gonna post the pic just for the fun of it. I did get up laughing, but had I had my camera, I think I may have been crying. Oh yea, I had my Nikon gear because I thought I'd be shooting a lot of action. This photo isn't on the Dragon - it's on another road that had waterfalls on it.
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Hubby wanted to go to TN to ride the tail of the dragon and Devils Triangle, so he said bring your cameras. I took my beloved D500 with 24-70mm and 70-20mm lenses. Then I also had my iPhone XR - I ended up shooting with my phone more because he was so antsy about getting there. I can see a marked difference in photos taken with each - I will always love my Nikon! Now, I need to know what I should do - get stupid lenses for iPhone or maybe find a smaller pocket-sized camera or just hope for the best when I take my D500. We towed a trailer behind our gold wing - that's where my Nikon gear stayed most of the trip. I"m upset about it. I don't have a ton of photos to show for this trip and it just makes me so mad! Shoot, I could even out-shoot the "pros" doing the Dragon photos! Sure I wouldn't have been in the pics, but at least there would be proper show of "motion" all the pics from both companies looked like our bike was sitting still = no wheel motion, no blurred background, but yet the pics were sharp. SO, if ya'lol have any suggestions, I'm open. I thought about riding with my camera around my neck, but then the temps were rather chilly and didn't want to drain my batteries. Okay, if ya'll have some input, let's hear it. Just for the fun of it - I'll post 1 each - from camera and phone.View attachment 1661608View attachment 1661609
Hey, Dianne -

It's good to see you back here at the Café, and seriously: both of your shots are just fine . . . Like you (and as others have mentioned), for me, sometimes our iPhones are the cameras we have available, and they are quite capable of great shots and memories? Maybe next time, just plan out some stoppage time in order to get out your Nikon gear? Hang in there . . .
 
Yikes, Dianne, glad you and Mark weren't hurt! That could've been a disastrous tumble! And, yes, if you'd had your camera with an expensive lens slung around your neck you probably would not have been a happy girl.....! Whew!

I forgot to mention in my other post that wow, you sure were seeing some gorgeous scenery! Beautiful! I'm not sure where the Tail of the Dragon and the Devil's Triangle are; I've been to the Great Smoky Mountains and I've been to part of Western North Carolina, home of Grandfather Mountain. The mountains of Tennessee and North Carolina are really something to see and experience, aren't they?
 
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I have a Sony A6000 when I don't want to take my Nikon gear. 18-135mm, 50mm f1.8 and a fisheye for the heck of it.The EVF keeps it usable in bright light.

Have never had any luck with phone add-on lenses. Most cases I have seen will not let the lens sit flush with the phone lens which mess up the optics. And any jarring will dislodge the lens.
 
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Connie - the mountains were GORGEOUS! There was one spot -that WOW, I wanted it so badly in a photo - the lighting was so perfect to show off all the hues, colors, and everything that would make a photo go WOW. We've been talking about it - we'll do another trip. When we tipped over on that road - luckily, it was coming out of the driveway of where the water falls were. Mark was able to get another man to help us right the bike. Mark has been riding since he was a kid and so skill wasn't an issue.
 
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@cajun angel, I would say you may be a candidate for a small mirrorless or serious compact camera. I say may because I have to ask why you were bringing a D500 + 24-70 + 70-200 on a road trip? That's a setup that can handle all kinds of formal and sporting events, outdoor or indoor. If the answer is "it's what I have and I want great glass" than yes you may be a candidate. If it's I want to shoot high speed events and action at any moment than maybe not. Both Nikon and Canon never really supported APS-C with a selection of high quality glass. And in mirrorless the same trend seems to be happening. Here Sony is pretty much the same as well.

I added mirrorless back in 2012 when my wife and I were headed out on a road trip and the smallest setup I had was a D700 and the old AF 28-105D (we went from MA down to the Biltmore). It was a fun road trip, but it was not a photo trip. Since then I've tried several m4/3 bodies and a few Fuji as well. When I shut my business down I sold off all my Nikon gear, currently I just have m4/3 gear. Is the image quality of my Olympus E-M1 mkII and Pen F as good as the D800 or D750 I use to own? "Technically" probably not, are they better than the D70, D200, Fuji S5 Pro, and D300 I used before I switched to FX? I would have to say yes and some of my personal favorites come from those cameras so... It's also the enjoyment I get out of shooting as much as the final image. Sure my phone can take a pretty nice image, but I get no enjoyment out of using it.

Besides the question of pure image quality there is the question of function what subject you want to shoot. And in some cases the subjects you're will to miss shooting. In 2017 we went out to Seattle to visit one of my kids and spent the week in Seattle and in Portland. I only took a Fuji X70 and the dedicated wide optical converter. The X70 has a digital converter that upscales the 28mm to 35mm and 50mm, the 35mm isn't bad, the 50 not so much IMHO. So with the converter I had 21mm / 28mm / 35mm and not OIS, VR, or tripod. But we had fun and I got some images I'm happy with. But the waterfall shots were only OK handheld and we though about trying to catch a baseball game to see T-Mobile Park, but they were away. The pictures of the park would have been fine and I accepted that I just wouldn't really get action shots.

Depending on what you want, what you can live with there are lost of options and some nice deals new and used. No most of the options aren't really going to resolve not having to take the camera out of the trailer unless you go for something like a Fuji X100v or similar. But it would sure be a smaller package and I rarely need a tripod these days with m4/3.

You mentioned that you have the RX10, while I know it's a nice camera, I really, strongly, dislike power zoom cameras and lenses. I also find them slow in use, not really frame to frame. But in use including startup and shutdown. I picked the X70 after have an RX100, Pan LX10 (Panasonic's version of the RX100), and two copies of the Pan LX100. If Panasonic only made a manual zoom version similar to Fuji X10/20/30 it would be great, the other manual controls are actually a joy to use.

Anyway, here's a direct link to a few of the galleries from those two trips and two others (both with other m4/3 gear). My site is currently a work in progress, so if at some point this link breaks the galleries should still be available through the home page:
https://www.myrandomeye.com/Public-Galleries/Vacations-and-Road-Trips
 
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Hey, Dianne -

It's good to see you back here at the Café, and seriously: both of your shots are just fine . . . Like you (and as others have mentioned), for me, sometimes our iPhones are the cameras we have available, and they are quite capable of great shots and memories? Maybe next time, just plan out some stoppage time in order to get out your Nikon gear? Hang in there . . .
HEY! I guess I'm just stewing, because so many people do use their phones instead of real cameras. I've prided myself with what I can do, I've earned my road name with our CMA group and just wanna keep my reputation lol Just call me SN
@cajun angel, I would say you may be a candidate for a small mirrorless or serious compact camera. I say may because I have to ask why you were bringing a D500 + 24-70 + 70-200 on a road trip? That's a setup that can handle all kinds of formal and sporting events, outdoor or indoor. If the answer is "it's what I have and I want great glass" than yes you may be a candidate. If it's I want to shoot high speed events and action at any moment than maybe not. Both Nikon and Canon never really supported APS-C with a selection of high quality glass. And in mirrorless the same trend seems to be happening. Here Sony is pretty much the same as well.

I added mirrorless back in 2012 when my wife and I were headed out on a road trip and the smallest setup I had was a D700 and the old AF 28-105D (we went from MA down to the Biltmore). It was a fun road trip, but it was not a photo trip. Since then I've tried several m4/3 bodies and a few Fuji as well. When I shut my business down I sold off all my Nikon gear, currently I just have m4/3 gear. Is the image quality of my Olympus E-M1 mkII and Pen F as good as the D800 or D750 I use to own? "Technically" probably not, are they better than the D70, D200, Fuji S5 Pro, and D300 I used before I switched to FX? I would have to say yes and some of my personal favorites come from those cameras so... It's also the enjoyment I get out of shooting as much as the final image. Sure my phone can take a pretty nice image, but I get no enjoyment out of using it.

Besides the question of pure image quality there is the question of function what subject you want to shoot. And in some cases the subjects you're will to miss shooting. In 2017 we went out to Seattle to visit one of my kids and spent the week in Seattle and in Portland. I only took a Fuji X70 and the dedicated wide optical converter. The X70 has a digital converter that upscales the 28mm to 35mm and 50mm, the 35mm isn't bad, the 50 not so much IMHO. So with the converter I had 21mm / 28mm / 35mm and not OIS, VR, or tripod. But we had fun and I got some images I'm happy with. But the waterfall shots were only OK handheld and we though about trying to catch a baseball game to see T-Mobile Park, but they were away. The pictures of the park would have been fine and I accepted that I just wouldn't really get action shots.

Depending on what you want, what you can live with there are lost of options and some nice deals new and used. No most of the options aren't really going to resolve not having to take the camera out of the trailer unless you go for something like a Fuji X100v or similar. But it would sure be a smaller package and I rarely need a tripod these days with m4/3.

You mentioned that you have the RX10, while I know it's a nice camera, I really, strongly, dislike power zoom cameras and lenses. I also find them slow in use, not really frame to frame. But in use including startup and shutdown. I picked the X70 after have an RX100, Pan LX10 (Panasonic's version of the RX100), and two copies of the Pan LX100. If Panasonic only made a manual zoom version similar to Fuji X10/20/30 it would be great, the other manual controls are actually a joy to use.

Anyway, here's a direct link to a few of the galleries from those two trips and two others (both with other m4/3 gear). My site is currently a work in progress, so if at some point this link breaks the galleries should still be available through the home page:
https://www.myrandomeye.com/Public-Galleries/Vacations-and-Road-Trips
Hey David! Thanks for all the info! I am quite experienced with action photography - I used to clear a 1K a day when shooting MX races, was head photographer for a marching band for 10 years, and now, I'm just shooting for myself mostly. I had my D500 stuff with me because that's what I chose to take on a trip, that I thought would be a lot of action - motorcycles, cars, etc. It just didn't happen - we were riding that much. I too find the RX10 very slow - that's why I took the Nikon - I'll be looking at your galleries, reading more, and then who knows, maybe I'll be buying another camera - I"ll be getting a nice discount when I go to photography school in August
 
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I'm with Mitch. These are great. If the rest of them are this good, I'd be really happy.
Thanks. I may get brave and post a few. The most photos I have with my Nikon were taken at an old state prison. My settings though, were atrocious. I still get the shots, still working on getting the feel that I want. The prison was built in the 1890's and shut down in 1972. It housed a lot of dangerous criminals - one being James Earl Ray - shot Martin Luther King. A highlight was getting to chat with one of the prison guards - he's retired now, but still talks about his job that he had.
 
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Thanks. I may get brave and post a few. The most photos I have with my Nikon were taken at an old state prison. My settings though, were atrocious. I still get the shots, still working on getting the feel that I want. The prison was built in the 1890's and shut down in 1972. It housed a lot of dangerous criminals - one being James Earl Ray - shot Martin Luther King. A highlight was getting to chat with one of the prison guards - he's retired now, but still talks about his job that he had.
This must be Brushy Mountain. I grew up in TN.
 
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Well if the requirement is sports / action / racing than you're not really going to reduce the size all that much.

What classes are you taking?
I'll be taking a class on flowers etc. I've been going for 4 years. Had hoped to make it as a portrait photographer, but just ain't happening. So, I'm just sharpening my skills while learning something new
 

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