*Italy and Coronavirus - READ IT*

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Not sure if applicable here.
Very shortly Italy is now 4th Country worldwide for confirmed Coronavirus cases.
If anyone has to come here, for work or leisure, especially in Northern Italy, please check the appropriate website to check for updated sanitary situation and required countermeasures.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread

I live in Emilia, an area about 30 miles away from the quarantined ones. Schools are closed and so are most of the public events to avoid spreading the virus.
 
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Hi Dino,

Thanks for posting the link. This is rather serious so stay safe and use long lenses.... On my flight to Germany last week Lufthansa was checking anyone who had been to China or had a Chinese passport before boarding.

Cheers,
alexis and Georgie Beagle

" best advice, wash your paws and don't put sticks and balls in your mouth without washing them first." - Georgie Beagle
 
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it will hit the USA sooner or later...we need to learn from this one to be ready for any future events.
we live in a small world now and there is NO preventing spreading things with how Global people are and the # of people flying daily, globally.
 

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Un bel casino!

I live in Reggio Emilia 30km from Dino. It is still at a safe distance, but who knows people travel by car. It seems to be popping up here and there without reason.
 
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We're actually awaiting for the public screening to come and check us three. Sunday 16th we played against the team of the initially infected town and past Friday ( +5 days from the game, only +2/3 from the outbreak) my son got's fever; because of a number of reasons on how this fever came out AND the fact they say A MINIMUM of 14 days are to be expected for the virus to be active, we don't think to be affected, we're all fine and my son is apparently on the way of recovery with low temp values now. However, we had to call and have be screened anyway. Public health care office will call us back soon to decide what to do. Given the high number of confirmed cases, it's even possible they say we're safe and a physical check with the tampon isn't necessary. Obviously both my wife and I are spared for work for today and until we don't have a written document we're healthy and free from virus.
 

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We're actually awaiting for the public screening to come and check us three. Sunday 16th we played against the team of the initially infected town and past Friday ( +5 days from the game, only +2/3 from the outbreak) my son got's fever; because of a number of reasons on how this fever came out AND the fact they say A MINIMUM of 14 days are to be expected for the virus to be active, we don't think to be affected, we're all fine and my son is apparently on the way of recovery with low temp values now. However, we had to call and have be screened anyway. Public health care office will call us back soon to decide what to do. Given the high number of confirmed cases, it's even possible they say we're safe and a physical check with the tampon isn't necessary. Obviously both my wife and I are spared for work for today and until we don't have a written document we're healthy and free from virus.
Wish you the best of luck for you and your family.

I work a lot with firms in Lombardy, apart from the health problems I think it is going to be devastating for our economy.
 
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it's more about media than flu itself which is even less deadly than common flu
Certainly far more people die of the flu every year (8000 so far this season in America). However, so little is known about the coronavirus that I don't think it's truly known which is more deadly. That's in the sense that once someone contracts the coronavirus, the likelihood of dying isn't yet known. That's especially true if the coronavirus mutates on its own; the coronavirus of today might be very different from the coronavirus of tomorrow.
 
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In our case, they talk about some 200 cases (surely and counting but of course we're about 60 million people) mostly concentrated in a couple of clusters and only 3/4 (elder) people deceased with lung problems. So at least over here there's really no reason to be worried.
 
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I know there has been a lot written about the Coronavirus lately.
No one has really said what is the best defense? Or maybe they don't really know.
Flu shot? I've had mine and my wife is getting her's today.
Wash hands frequently?
Masks when out in public?
I keep our home humidity level at about 40% - 45%. Most viruses have a very difficult time surviving at that humidity level.
 
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There really isn’t an easy good defense.
Flu shot is always a good idea, but not likely to add any immunity at all to a new unknown strain like the corona virus. Also remember takes a couple of weeks to actually do anything.
Washing hands, etc always makes sense.
The masks that are available on the street do next to nothing. They certainly will not filter out virus size particles. They will filter out large aerosolized clumps, so maybe some help. They will also “clog” within hours so they need to be changed frequently. And think, if they are doing anything at all, their outer surface will be covered with active virus, so they need to be taken off carefully and disposed of properly. They are actually more useful in keeping what you cough up from spreading to others, not so much the other way around.
These masks do make people think they are doing something.
Masks that actually work need to be fitted to each person and are quite expensive.
As Mike said, we really do not know much about this virus yet, or what its history will be.
Be safe out there
Gary
 
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These masks do make people think they are doing something.
Perhaps more important, my hunch is that people wearing a mask more often remember to cough into their arm (not their hand), to wash their hands regularly, and the like. The mask might be a reminder to those wearing them to take the other precautions throughout their waking hours. Certainly wearing a mask would generally cause no medical harm.
 
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I absolutely agree the masks really do no harm, but are generally not recommended for healthy people in the general population. The only downside I could see, is if someone is ill and thinks they can go out and about safely if they wear a mask.
The general population really can do little except hang on for the ride. If you are sick, stay home. If someone in your family is sick, you should stay home. Wash your hands. Wash them again.
We accept 10-50,000 deaths from the flu each year. We accept 3,000 deaths a day from car crashes. Why are we reacting so strongly to this new challenge? Part of it, I believe, is we do not know. The unknown is always frightening, especially with the media blitz. But leave that to the medical professionals, not the media. The corona virus could turn out to be a terrible new disease, or it may not. Stay alert, but there are other known risks that presently are much more likely to kill us than this specific virus.
Gary
 
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i have a good friend departing in a couple of weeks for a photo workshop in Venice and Bologna. The participants are scheduled to stay on a river cruise boat docked at Venice. He booked this back on October, prior to this virus getting loose. He has spoken with the photographer leading the workshop and said he was “clueless about the virus”, we talked last night and he was going to give the company in charge of the boat a call. He would like to find a way to get out of this without losing all his money. I suggested he pick up a N95 mask, some hand sanitizer and as much as possible avoid human contact.
 
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Agree, but it does not really make sense. Flu vaccinations actually work, but less than 50% of the population gets them. They work, they save lives.
We could all wear masks every flu season, but at least in this country we don’t, or at least haven’t in the past.
There are a lot of things we could do, but don’t because it has somehow become acceptable risk.
At this time Florida does not yet have a single confirmed case of corona virus that I am aware of, yet I see masks being now being worn in stores. Drugstores are sold out of masks and other supplies. This was not seen during our previous flu seasons. I have friends asking what they should do, they never asked before. People are afraid. I do not know if that is needed or not, time will tell. But at least today the known actual risk is no different than our other flu seasons, but the populations response is much different. Why?? Probably the media, but I don’t know.
Gary
 

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