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Just got the 80-200 2.8 and have questions!

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by Cleo68, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    I've recently re-purchased a D80 with the 18-135 kit plus the 80-200 2.8. I sold off my Canon gear for the D80 (which I've had before) because I'll be working for some companies who use Nikon. Anyway, I want to know if anyone has experience using the D80 and the 80-200 2.8. I plan to use it for youth sporting "action" shots in the fall. By the weight of it, seems I'll definitely need a monopod. Is this a good lens for that type of thing? Anyone have any photos they can share? I'd appreciate it. Thanks! :smile:
     
  2. MD2595

    MD2595

    835
    Jul 6, 2007
    Fort Worth, TX
    I've had this lens for about 2 years now and it is my most used lens when I can get in fairly close.

    I've used it for soccer, swim, baseball and hockey.

    I'm at work and don't have any samples, but it is a great lens.
     
  3. I use the same combo, but without a monopod. I use shutter speeds well over 1/640 so a support device only gets in the way.

    Some of these are a little over saturated with color so ignore the exotic blues!

    00005208.
    NIKON D80    ---    200mm    f/4.0    1/3200s    ISO 200


    00005157.
    NIKON D80    ---    135mm    f/4.0    1/4000s    ISO 200



    modeIa3319.
    NIKON D80    ---    145mm    f/4.5    1/2500s    ISO 160


    modeI3178.
    NIKON D80    ---    170mm    f/5.0    1/2500s    ISO 160



    9983197.
    NIKON D80    ---    170mm    f/4.5    1/3200s    ISO 160
     
  4. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    Great! Glad to hear it. Thanks. If you get a chance after work at some point, would you mind posting some? I see you've got the D300 and probably much more experience than myself, but I'd love to see some results of what this monster can do. Thanks much!
     
  5. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    Wow! Beauties! Thanks! Did you meter and use manual, or aperture/shutter priority mode? I'm guessing aperture priority? I know swimming pools can be tricky!
     
  6. I use aperture priority. Generally ISO 200 but adjust as conditions dictate. I was shooting at f4, ISO 200 and getting shutter speeds around 1/3500 this weekend..the first two images. Using manual would be tough. The starting blocks are often in the shade so a change in metering would be required as you moved from there down the pool. I prefer to let the camera handle that work for me. I concentrate on controlling composition and timing my shutter releases.
     
  7. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    I can imagine manual would be difficult in that situation!! Actually, I'm not sure how easy it would be to guess at the shutter speed needed. What type of metering do you use? I think I've read that spot metering would be a really bad idea here?
     
  8. MD2595

    MD2595

    835
    Jul 6, 2007
    Fort Worth, TX
    I've only had the D300 for a couple months.

    I don't use a support with the 80-200 either. I do use it with the Sigma 120-300 though (it's a 5lb+ lens).
     
  9. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    You must be stronger than me. I'm only a 5'2" female with extremely small hands. Grr... When I was using my Canon 40D + 70-200 4 L with IS (VR in Nikonese), the thing weighed next to nothing, so I was spoiled. Of course, I didn't have the 2.8 in order to increase my shutter speed though. But that IS did come in handy. Couldn't afford Nikon's version at the moment however.
     
  10. I have used the 80-200 AF-D for action shots (though they are very fast moving dragsters.) I use it hand held and it is a great incredibly sharp lens.

    87863260.
    NIKON D100    ---    125mm    f/5.6    1/1250s    ISO 250


    77935007.
    NIKON D100    ---    200mm    f/7.1    1/500s    ISO 200


    87863261.
    NIKON D100    ---    112mm    f/6.3    1/1000s    ISO 250
     
  11. I leave that camera set to Center Priority with the 8mm circle for nearly all uses. The only exception being spot metering on some rare occasions.

    The only time I use manual mode is with the SB600 attached.
     
  12. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    I'm pretty sure mine is the AF-D also. At least that's what it says on the box. Is this the newer or older model? I honestly have no clue. It just fit the bill price-wise. I found one used for about $700, which included the lens and case. It's in pristine condition. Think they sent me an older Nikon lens cap though, lol.
     
  13. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    Yep. Makes sense. I've only just started using my SB800 regularly. I always had external flashes, but not until this past couple weeks have I really started using it. I have a light meter now as well. This is what they use for youth sport head shots and team shots at my company - so I wanted to have most of the same gear. I'm still very green with the flash, but definitely see the benefits for fill, etc. Before, I was wimping out and using my pop-up for fill as I was too lazy (or embarrassed) to lug my external around.
     
  14. I have the AF-S version, and it is one of my favorite lenses. :smile:
     
  15. The 80-200 2.8 AF-D (2 ring) is not the newest version, but it is the most current. The 80-200 AF-S version was the most recent update, which was discontinued after the 70-200 2.8 AF-S came out.
     
  16. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    Weird! So is the AF-S better in any way? What does it have that the AF-D didn't? Did it just have one "ring"?
     
  17. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    Ok. Nevermind. I've just googled it and have been reading up. Sounds like the AF-S is more expensive (surely out of my price range) and has faster AF. I hope the AF-D is fast enough for youth sports on the D80 (i.e. soccer, baseball, football, etc.)?
     
  18. PeteZ28

    PeteZ28

    Oct 5, 2007
    Newtown, PA
    Actually, there are a pile of different versions of this lens. At least two different "push pull" one ring AF lenses, the most current "D" lens is the two ring screwdrive AF version, then there was the 80-200 AFS version that was short lived and discontinued for the 70-200 AFS-VR version that is the newest. So there are currently two versions of this lens being made, the two ring "D" screwdrive lens, and the 70-200 AFS-VR lens.

    All are exceptionally sharp and focus at least reasonably fast on most bodies, with the top speed winners obviously going to the AFS versions. Some feel the two ring AF-D version is the softest of the bunch and after owning one, I tend to agree. (I have owned the newest push-pull one ring, the two ring, and now the 70-200). Perhaps mine was a defective copy but it immeidately went back to the store for a 70-200 AFS-VR.
     
  19. Mine is the second generation push pull. Very happy with my decision to save some money and skip the two ring.
     
  20. Cleo68

    Cleo68

    Jul 7, 2008
    Bedford, MA
    Hopefully I can make the most of it since I can't afford anything else at the moment. My husband lost his job in May and I'm a stay-at-home Mom for the time being. You don't think $799 was a bad price, do you? Pretty sure I have the two ring deal. I need to either get to know this thing and stick it out, or send it back, which I hate to do. I'll have to get some shots of the kids running around the yard later tonight. Thanks for your input everyone.
     
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