Lens help for Yellowstone/Tetons

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For years I was absent this forum cause we had two kids and my photography consisted of kids shots. Now we finally are taking the kids to Yellowstone and Teton NP this June and I can’t wait to do some wildlife photography again.

here’s the problem, my 7 year old will bug me constantly to use my camera, so I want to buy a second used body and a long lens so we don’t have to fight over my D7500. I have only a 70-300 AFP DX, which is awesome for the $130 price (factory refurb). What body would you buy or rent? D610 is around $500, but maybe that’s a step down from D7500 for wildlife? something compatible with the AFP DX lens would be nice, D5600?

Lens is easier, I could rent a 80-400 or 200-500, maybe even buy the latter. Body rentals are pretty cheap too.
 
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Haven't checked prices on a used (or rental) D500, but as a DX body, it would pair well with your 70-300. And, depending on your budget (and I well remember having kids as a priority!), the 200-500 was a *terrific* bargain when it was newly introduced. You're gonna have a blast up there.
 
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Haven't checked prices on a used (or rental) D500, but as a DX body, it would pair well with your 70-300. And, depending on your budget (and I well remember having kids as a priority!), the 200-500 was a *terrific* bargain when it was newly introduced. You're gonna have a blast up there.

Thanks! I went with my wife pre kids 11 years ago with a D50 and 70-300 VR. Definitely wanted more range! I’d like to give my son a light combo, like the 70-300 DX and a cheap light body, but the damn AFP lens only works on the newest cameras.

I may bring my tripod this time so the kids can use it - the 200-500 looks heavy.
 
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For shooting mammals you might consider a used D7200 if you can find one. Still my favorite body for IQ when there's good light. And a 200-500 would be a good choice for whichever body you choose.

Yeah bit hard to find but I like that idea cause it’ll be familiar, coming from D7000 and D7500. Knowing your camera was key last time I visited cause wildlife is always surprising you there.
 
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I like the idea of a used D7200. Then the controls are more similar to your D7500, when you have to help him.
I shoot a D7200, and when I have to help someone with a different camera, it can be hard to VERY hard, with the different control layout and menu.

But, as you know the D7200/7500 are not light cameras.
A D3000 or D5000 series camera would be lighter and easier for him to carry. Get the later models (like D5600, D3500), to work with your 70-300 AF-P. You have to look at the compatibility chart, to see what other models the AF-P lens will work on.
You will have to study the manual and camera, because the control layout of the D5600 and D3500 are very different than your D7500.
 
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Having been to YNP, you'll want to have as much reach as you possibly can handle taking with you.

I took the D500, 300/4E PF, TC14EIII and still craved more reach for wildlife. The other lens I took was the Tokina 11-16/2.8 For the landscapes, nothing beets a nice, wide angle, especially in the pool areas.

I took the Nikon 18-140 VR too, but used it mainly in town and for street shooting.

If going back, I'd look at probably getting a Nikon 200-500 or a Tamron 150-600 on the D500

What I did there with that kit there:
https://bestlightphotoblog.wordpres...to-yellowstone-national-park-compendium-post/
 
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I like the idea of a used D7200. Then the controls are more similar to your D7500, when you have to help him.
I shoot a D7200, and when I have to help someone with a different camera, it can be hard to VERY hard, with the different control layout and menu.

But, as you know the D7200/7500 are not light cameras.
A D3000 or D5000 series camera would be lighter and easier for him to carry. Get the later models (like D5600, D3500), to work with your 70-300 AF-P. You have to look at the compatibility chart, to see what other models the AF-P lens will work on.
You will have to study the manual and camera, because the control layout of the D5600 and D3500 are very different than your D7500.

Thanks yeah, hadn't considered a D3xxx series but that'd be good for him - found a E- D3300 for $179 on Adorama, that'd work great I think. Good idea on the controls, looks like the D3300 is like the D7500 just no front dial for aperture setting, that's ok. I'd just set it in Manual with AutoISO, set the widest aperture or f/8 and 1/250 or 1/500 and let him fire away.
 
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Having been to YNP, you'll want to have as much reach as you possibly can handle taking with you.

I took the D500, 300/4E PF, TC14EIII and still craved more reach for wildlife. The other lens I took was the Tokina 11-16/2.8 For the landscapes, nothing beets a nice, wide angle, especially in the pool areas.

I took the Nikon 18-140 VR too, but used it mainly in town and for street shooting.

If going back, I'd look at probably getting a Nikon 200-500 or a Tamron 150-600 on the D500

What I did there with that kit there:
https://bestlightphotoblog.wordpres...to-yellowstone-national-park-compendium-post/

Thanks, will go through your tips there! I thought of the 300 f/4E once I realized the 200-500 is 5 lbs. Wow, I don't think that'll work cause with two kids, it'll be a hassle to have to use a tripod all the time. Think I need something I can hand carry, maybe 80-400 or Tamron 100-400. The 300 f/4E is an option since I can rent one.
 

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I have a D500 but still use my D7200 a lot. It works well with all my lenses, its fast and its like a twin brother to my FF D750 which makes life easier on me. Oh, and I found it used from my local camera store back when the D7500's came out and people were trading them in. It had a low shutter count and looked perfect and was priced very well....sweet deal if I recall.
I also have a D5200 and prefer it to the D3xxx series. Not much different in price but an upgrade in features.
I also have a nice D7100 that has worked so well for me I won't sell it for the low price they bring on the open market today. The D7200 has a bigger buffer which makes it better for situations where I am doing rapid shooting like action shots. The D7100 has a great sensor and will produce wonderful photos but will run out of buffer if you shoot RAW rapidly.
 
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Having been to YNP, you'll want to have as much reach as you possibly can handle taking with you.

I took the D500, 300/4E PF, TC14EIII and still craved more reach for wildlife. The other lens I took was the Tokina 11-16/2.8 For the landscapes, nothing beets a nice, wide angle, especially in the pool areas.

I took the Nikon 18-140 VR too, but used it mainly in town and for street shooting.

If going back, I'd look at probably getting a Nikon 200-500 or a Tamron 150-600 on the D500

What I did there with that kit there:
https://bestlightphotoblog.wordpres...to-yellowstone-national-park-compendium-post/

avoiding heavy lenses like the 200-500 or Tamron 150-600, what do you think between the 300 f/4 with 1.4 TC, an 80-400 or a Tamron 100-400?

Renting they’re all not too bad, about $100 to $150 for the week.

Just afraid I won’t be able to hand hold the 200-500. My favorite shots from my last trip tended to be shots where I wouldn’t have had time to set up a tripod.
 
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avoiding heavy lenses like the 200-500 or Tamron 150-600, what do you think between the 300 f/4 with 1.4 TC, an 80-400 or a Tamron 100-400?

Renting they’re all not too bad, about $100 to $150 for the week.

Just afraid I won’t be able to hand hold the 200-500. My favorite shots from my last trip tended to be shots where I wouldn’t have had time to set up a tripod.

I've not had a chance to use the Nikon 80-400 or the Tamron 100-400, so I'd be remiss if I tried to sell you on either.

I love the 300/4 PF and TC1.4E III.

Here is the work I've done with the 300mm on its own:
https://flickr.com/photos/gryphon1911/albums/72157680540440535


And here is everything that used the TC14EIII:
https://flickr.com/photos/gryphon1911/albums/72157678953977012

I mainly use it on a Nikon D500, so sensor wise similar to what you'd get from a Z50, D7500, D7100, D7200 type camera.
 
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I've not had a chance to use the Nikon 80-400 or the Tamron 100-400, so I'd be remiss if I tried to sell you on either.

I love the 300/4 PF and TC1.4E III.

Here is the work I've done with the 300mm on its own:
https://flickr.com/photos/gryphon1911/albums/72157680540440535


And here is everything that used the TC14EIII:
https://flickr.com/photos/gryphon1911/albums/72157678953977012

I mainly use it on a Nikon D500, so sensor wise similar to what you'd get from a Z50, D7500, D7100, D7200 type camera.

wow, incredible stuff! I’m surprised the difference is so visible with and without TC, the 300mm shots just pop, stunning.

I use mostly primes these days so the 300 f/4 appeals to me, but maybe the range of a zoom would be beneficial.
 
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wow, incredible stuff! I’m surprised the difference is so visible with and without TC, the 300mm shots just pop, stunning.

I use mostly primes these days so the 300 f/4 appeals to me, but maybe the range of a zoom would be beneficial.

In general shooting yes....but at Yellowstone, you'll find that you - well, I did anyway - will be shooting at the extremes on either end. You really cannot get wide enough sometimes, and you really desire more reach on the other.
 
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I've not had a chance to use the Nikon 80-400 or the Tamron 100-400, so I'd be remiss if I tried to sell you on either.

I love the 300/4 PF and TC1.4E III.

Here is the work I've done with the 300mm on its own:
https://flickr.com/photos/gryphon1911/albums/72157680540440535


And here is everything that used the TC14EIII:
https://flickr.com/photos/gryphon1911/albums/72157678953977012

I mainly use it on a Nikon D500, so sensor wise similar to what you'd get from a Z50, D7500, D7100, D7200 type camera.

Looking more at the two galleries it’s harder to tell the difference with the TC, but maybe more subject isolation without it can make the subjects pop more.

I remember my 70-300 VR was mostly at 200-300mm the whole trip lol, and it wasn’t a sharp lens at 300mm. so the 200-500 might be the way to go, despite the weight. The idea of a sharp 500mm lens in Yellowstone is enticing!
 

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