posted a thread on this earlier & got some useful feedback - but want to explore this a little bit further. A conventional (at least for me) answer would be: a) 28-105 b) 70-300 VR There are however a couple of things potentialy wrong with these (again from my point of view & its not the quality of the lenses) 1) There is the potential for these to become first choice in my bag rather than my existing lenses & I like my existing lenses - just not the weight at times:biggrin: 2) They are zooms. Nothing wrong with that - I have used zooms almost exclusively all my photographic life, it's just that if I keep using zooms, I am not going to learn how to use fixed focal lengths & all the discipline / creativity that using these can bring. So my unconventional (for me) idea is as follows: a) Wide angle prime (24?) b) 180 prime - Voigtlander SL APO F4 (if I can get one) Logic (bearing in mind that this s primarily for travelling when I can't or don't want to take the full set) being as follows: If I really need wide then I take the 17-35, 50mm & the 180 If I need mid range then 24, 35-70 & the 180 If I am shooting Action then the 24, 50 & 70-200 or if I really want a challenge then the 24, 50 & 180. So would appreciate any thoughts / comments on the above, plus suggestions for the primes - they can be either MF or AF wide angle - is 24 the right focal length - is the Nikkor 24 F2.8D the correct lens? 180 - Prime - went with the voigtlander over the Nikkor for a couple of reasons - cost (359 according to B&H - I can't seem to find a Nikkor 180 2.8 for less than 450 on the used market) and weight ---oh & I've seen the photo's that Paul Lindquist has posted with this lens:biggrin: Seriously - any other options thoughts / combinations appreciated.