I went to the Huntsville Botanical Gardens after work today, to shoot with fellow forum member Muril Robertson. The 70-180 that I evaluated last night belongs to Muril. In addition to being a nice, generous person, he is an absolutely phenomenal photographer. I've only shot with him twice, and I've learned a ton. ;-) I used Patrick's 200 micro (got to give it back tomorrow. ). I was very impressed by the results. Here are some examples. All shot with the D2H / 200 f4 micro / SB-800. Thanks for looking in.