need clean iso cannot afford d700.d300s or d7000 ?

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Hi everyone, now there seems to be more and more d7000 users is the high iso much better than the d300/d300s. I have the d300s and never try to shoot above 1000 iso as i hate the look of it.
I could sell my d300s and get a d7000 quite easy, is it worth me doing do you think.
All opinions welcome.
scott.
 
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I shoot up to ISO5000 all night long with the D7K :eek:
Never would dare try that with the likes of the D90/D300/D300s I've owned.
Worth a looksee, that's for sure. :biggrin:

SOOC D7K 70-200 f2.8 VR II wide open ISO5000....check the Exif :wink:

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That looks awesome trenchmonkey. Im not a full time pro so i dont really need the build quality of the d300s and i dont shoot sports so i really dont need the speed. I switched from Canon for the the focus accuracy and the d300s was the best i could afford.
Ive always wanted a canon 5d for the quality of the high iso/image quality but didnt want the rubbish focus system.
I suppose im hoping the d7000 will be a poormans d700/canon 5d.
If that is the case them im getting one.
Cheers scott.
 
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I've spent a ton of time with the D300 at ISO3200 so I guess I would question what technique you're using, or what your expectations are from your camera body if you don't like going past ISO1000 with the D300s. Heck, I've got some pretty decent results from far worse low-light performers - like the D2-series bodies, D200, D100, D1X, D70S, etc etc. Can you post any samples of what you are finding? Are you sure you're doing everything you can to get the most from your D300s in low light? Technique and settings can play a major role in the results you get at higher ISO's for sure, and ANY camera body can look bad at high ISO otherwise. I only ask because I spend a great deal of my shooting time at camera limits (hence my love for the D3S)...

Failing that, the D7000 has at least started to close the gap to the D700 and as Will proves is a pretty darn capable low-light DX camera body.
 
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DJ. What are some good low light techniques that you are refering to that reduce noise? Sorry if this is thread jacking
 
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Answering the question in your post's title, the D5100 would seem like a good option. Would you be willing to give up what it doesn't support (AFD lens AF, etc.)?
 
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Well, first and foremost I guess, proper exposure. Getting enough light in-cam (ideally getting the histogram to the right edge where possible) and never adding brightness in post. Some picture controls and active D-Lighting settings can exxagerate the brightness in shadow areas for example. Making sure anything you do in post drops shadows instead of boosting them.

Since moving to the D300, D700, D3, D3S bodies, I've stopped using noise reduction software altogether. I don't like the smearing effect it generally produces, especially in prints. I generally keep my in-cam NR setting at low or normal at most, and that's it. Instead, I try my best at nailing exposure in-cam.

D700, ISO5000:
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D700, ISO5000:
View attachment 899712

D3S, ISO102,400:
View attachment 899713

D3S, ISO12800:
View attachment 899714

D3S, ISO3200:
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Well, first and foremost I guess, proper exposure. Getting enough light in-cam (ideally getting the histogram to the right edge where possible) and never adding brightness in post. Some picture controls and active D-Lighting settings can exxagerate the brightness in shadow areas for example. Making sure anything you do in post drops shadows instead of boosting them.

Since moving to the D300, D700, D3, D3S bodies, I've stopped using noise reduction software altogether. I don't like the smearing effect it generally produces, especially in prints. I generally keep my in-cam NR setting at low or normal at most, and that's it. Instead, I try my best at nailing exposure in-cam.

D700, ISO5000:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/dj_dunzie/HL LAX JUN26-09/U_D70_4700.jpg

D700, ISO5000:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/dj_dunzie/AA Checking Clinic Aug 19-09/U_D70_5661-2.jpg

D3S, ISO102,400:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/dj_dunzie/dakota pics/U_D3S_7685.jpg

D3S, ISO12800:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/dj_dunzie/AA Practice Dec19-09/U_D3S_0098.jpg

D3S, ISO3200:
http://djsphotography.smugmug.com/Sports/Welland-at-Guelph-Oct-31-10/UD3S4416/1075256111_UDp7G-O.jpg
these are nice shots but not comparable to what he is asking. i have a D7000 and love it but would never think it could out do a D700 or D3s.
 
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D7000 isn't the worst idea. I've thought about it, but the build quality and FPS are critical to me, as is having the MB-D10 grip and its ability to support the EL4 battery. If not for that, the D7000 is the clear winner in image quality.

I understand about ISO issues with the D300s. With mine, sometimes I'm happy at 3200 or more, but other times 800 is too noisy. It's not random, but it's often hard to predict what will have the right effect.
 
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Try Nik Define 2 trial. Very little sharpness reduction and most will never notice.

You can always make an edge make in the channels pallet and load it as a mask to protect the edges on the NR layer. This works really well.
 
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