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New Canon S90

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jonh68, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. jonh68


    Sep 21, 2008

    I have been looking for a P&S for the times when I want to enjoy a vacation without hauling gear around with good noise performance and fast lens. With a f 2.0 at $420, this looks like it might make into my bag.
  2. Globeguy


    Oct 21, 2008
    For good noise performance P&S, Panasonic LX3 is what you want to get. IIRC that has either a constant f2 lens throughout its range or it was f2 - f2.2. It is immensely popular and it is out of stock everywhere though.
  3. boyscout


    Mar 19, 2009

    A terrific photographer in Toronto uses The LX3 for some of his shots, and gets outstanding results with it, easily holding their own with other shots from his high-end Canon gear. Have a look here:


    As Globeguy says, the LX3's are scarce. I've made several walk-in attempts to buy one since before Christmas, but the stores I've visited wanted me to leave a deposit with them and could not promise a delivery date, so I passed. I guess that popularity means something! Reviews (like at dpreview.com) are enthusiastic too. Most everything I've read about this camera puts it at the top of Panasonic's P&S line and in the top of the P&S camera category overall.
  4. Lurker


    Jul 21, 2007
    Read first, talk later :) 

    The new Canon G11 and the S90 are clearly a response to the LX3 with a similar approach - relative low megapixels (10) and good low-light performance. I have no doubt that the draconic measure of cutting pixelcount with 1/3 compared to the G10 has resulted in dramatic improvements - Canon does have a good reputation when it comes to sensor design.

    The S90 is clearly aimed at the LX3 - very small, fast glass. Not clear if the old fashioned S-body tradition (high quality metal body) is kept. But the lens-ring control is a very nice touch. Assuming low light performance is good it will be a fierce competitor for the Olympus EP-1, and the Panasonic LX3 of course. Probably similar in performance to the LX3; major selling point: availability.

    The G11 is clearly aimed at the Panasonic G1 - a viable small size alternative to an SLR with good low-light performance.

    Four things to notice about the G11:
    • It's a real G-series, not a GINO (G in name only)
    • A drastic reduction of megapixels
    • Unlike the LX3, it will be widely available
    • A lot smaller and cheaper than a Panasonic G1 but likely with similar performance

    If I were working for the Coolpix marketing department I'd do the following:
    1) Refresh underpants
    2) Really, really, really rethink the P6000 and instead of putting gimmicks in it (ethernet, GPS) and concentrate on "where it really hurts" - shutter lag, frame rate, low light performance. Canon seems to understand that, Nikon not.

    Right now, Canon, Panasonic and Olympus all offer very attractive alternatives for high quality photography in a smaller-than-regular-SLR (although in very different ways). Nikon? Not so much.
  5. SP77


    Jun 4, 2007
    Rockville, MD
    These look sweet. I really do need to get something like this. I have a Casio P&S but don't like it at all. Not 28mm equivalent at the wide end, and the quickest it goes is f/3.5, hard to hold, and the menu system just sucks. The output is also really soft.

    I like the sensor on this S90. Not only is it bigger, but it also has relatively fewer MP's.

    • 1/1.7" Type CCD
    • 10 million effective pixels

    How do the others compare? Don't most P&S cameras have something like a 1/2.5" sensor or smaller?

    The lens is sweet to. Wow f/2!

    • 28-105mm (35mm equiv)
    • f = 6.0 - 22.5 mm
    • 3.8x optical zoom
    • F2.0-4.9
    • Construction: 11 elements in 9 groups 7 elements in 6 groups (2 double-sided aspherical elements including 1 UA element)
  6. I don't know if anyone noticed but both the S90 and the G11 have a 10 MP sensor. The G10 had a 15 MP sensor. Is the megapixel madness over? I can't think of another digital camera that had a reduction in megapixel count from one model to the next. Remember Olympus with their statement that 12 MP is enough, at least for their 4/3 format sensors?
  7. If they make an underwater housing for it, i think im gonna buy one!
  8. Also check the Fuji EXR.
  9. Globeguy


    Oct 21, 2008
    With max aperature range of f2.0 - 4.9, it's hardly fast at its longer range. While LX3 stays fast throughout its range with aperatures of f2.0 - 2.8.

    At the wide end LX3 is wider, I'd personally take a wider lens over longer lens in a P&S.

    Samples from S90 are more smudged and doesn't retain detail as well as LX3.



  10. SP77


    Jun 4, 2007
    Rockville, MD
    Wow those both look great to me! Compared to what I've got for a P&S now. :wink: They look pretty close. Could have been lighting differences. More contrast in the LX3 shot, but looking real quick yeah the LX3 does seem a tad better.
  11. boyscout


    Mar 19, 2009
    FYI, Vistek's web site (a Canadian chain) now shows stock of the LX3 in all its stores.
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