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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0908/09081907canons90.asp

I have been looking for a P&S for the times when I want to enjoy a vacation without hauling gear around with good noise performance and fast lens. With a f 2.0 at $420, this looks like it might make into my bag.
For good noise performance P&S, Panasonic LX3 is what you want to get. IIRC that has either a constant f2 lens throughout its range or it was f2 - f2.2. It is immensely popular and it is out of stock everywhere though.
 
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For good noise performance P&S, Panasonic LX3 is what you want to get. IIRC that has either a constant f2 lens throughout its range or it was f2 - f2.2. It is immensely popular and it is out of stock everywhere though.
A terrific photographer in Toronto uses The LX3 for some of his shots, and gets outstanding results with it, easily holding their own with other shots from his high-end Canon gear. Have a look here:

http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/

As Globeguy says, the LX3's are scarce. I've made several walk-in attempts to buy one since before Christmas, but the stores I've visited wanted me to leave a deposit with them and could not promise a delivery date, so I passed. I guess that popularity means something! Reviews (like at dpreview.com) are enthusiastic too. Most everything I've read about this camera puts it at the top of Panasonic's P&S line and in the top of the P&S camera category overall.
 
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For good noise performance P&S, Panasonic LX3 is what you want to get. IIRC that has either a constant f2 lens throughout its range or it was f2 - f2.2. It is immensely popular and it is out of stock everywhere though.
Read first, talk later :)

The new Canon G11 and the S90 are clearly a response to the LX3 with a similar approach - relative low megapixels (10) and good low-light performance. I have no doubt that the draconic measure of cutting pixelcount with 1/3 compared to the G10 has resulted in dramatic improvements - Canon does have a good reputation when it comes to sensor design.

The S90 is clearly aimed at the LX3 - very small, fast glass. Not clear if the old fashioned S-body tradition (high quality metal body) is kept. But the lens-ring control is a very nice touch. Assuming low light performance is good it will be a fierce competitor for the Olympus EP-1, and the Panasonic LX3 of course. Probably similar in performance to the LX3; major selling point: availability.

The G11 is clearly aimed at the Panasonic G1 - a viable small size alternative to an SLR with good low-light performance.

Four things to notice about the G11:
  • It's a real G-series, not a GINO (G in name only)
  • A drastic reduction of megapixels
  • Unlike the LX3, it will be widely available
  • A lot smaller and cheaper than a Panasonic G1 but likely with similar performance

If I were working for the Coolpix marketing department I'd do the following:
1) Refresh underpants
2) Really, really, really rethink the P6000 and instead of putting gimmicks in it (ethernet, GPS) and concentrate on "where it really hurts" - shutter lag, frame rate, low light performance. Canon seems to understand that, Nikon not.

Right now, Canon, Panasonic and Olympus all offer very attractive alternatives for high quality photography in a smaller-than-regular-SLR (although in very different ways). Nikon? Not so much.
 
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These look sweet. I really do need to get something like this. I have a Casio P&S but don't like it at all. Not 28mm equivalent at the wide end, and the quickest it goes is f/3.5, hard to hold, and the menu system just sucks. The output is also really soft.

I like the sensor on this S90. Not only is it bigger, but it also has relatively fewer MP's.

• 1/1.7" Type CCD
• 10 million effective pixels

How do the others compare? Don't most P&S cameras have something like a 1/2.5" sensor or smaller?


The lens is sweet to. Wow f/2!

• 28-105mm (35mm equiv)
• f = 6.0 - 22.5 mm
• 3.8x optical zoom
• F2.0-4.9
• Construction: 11 elements in 9 groups 7 elements in 6 groups (2 double-sided aspherical elements including 1 UA element)
 
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I don't know if anyone noticed but both the S90 and the G11 have a 10 MP sensor. The G10 had a 15 MP sensor. Is the megapixel madness over? I can't think of another digital camera that had a reduction in megapixel count from one model to the next. Remember Olympus with their statement that 12 MP is enough, at least for their 4/3 format sensors?
 
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Read first, talk later :)

The S90 is clearly aimed at the LX3 - very small, fast glass.
With max aperature range of f2.0 - 4.9, it's hardly fast at its longer range. While LX3 stays fast throughout its range with aperatures of f2.0 - 2.8.

At the wide end LX3 is wider, I'd personally take a wider lens over longer lens in a P&S.

Samples from S90 are more smudged and doesn't retain detail as well as LX3.

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/PowerShot_2009/PS_S90/sampleimg/sampleimg_1.jpg

vs

http://a.img-dpreview.com/gallery/panasoniclx3_samples/originals/p1020223_rb.jpg
 
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With max aperature range of f2.0 - 4.9, it's hardly fast at its longer range. While LX3 stays fast throughout its range with aperatures of f2.0 - 2.8.

At the wide end LX3 is wider, I'd personally take a wider lens over longer lens in a P&S.

Samples from S90 are more smudged and doesn't retain detail as well as LX3.

http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/PowerShot_2009/PS_S90/sampleimg/sampleimg_1.jpg

vs

http://a.img-dpreview.com/gallery/panasoniclx3_samples/originals/p1020223_rb.jpg
Wow those both look great to me! Compared to what I've got for a P&S now. :wink: They look pretty close. Could have been lighting differences. More contrast in the LX3 shot, but looking real quick yeah the LX3 does seem a tad better.
 
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As Globeguy says, the Lumix LX3's are scarce. I've made several walk-in attempts to buy one since before Christmas, but the stores I've visited wanted me to leave a deposit with them and could not promise a delivery date, so I passed.
FYI, Vistek's web site (a Canadian chain) now shows stock of the LX3 in all its stores.
 

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