Nikon Manual Focus Glass - Part III

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105 f/2.5 P AI
Those are excellent examples of what the older lenses can do, Curtis. Does that particular 105 focus closer than the AI-s version, or did you crop significantly?

I participated in the FM thread briefly (moniker JRT64), but you did get me started collecting those lenses. My collection does not compare to yours, but I have the 24/2.8, 35/2.0, 55/3.5, 105/2.5, 105/4 micro, 135/3.5, and 200/4, all AI-s except for the 55/3.5.
 
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As you look at my list in my previous post, you see there is a gap between 55mm and 105mm. I see there is an 85mm f/2, but I have seen nothing written about it that I can remember.

Is the 85/2 up to the standard of the other AIS lenses such as the 55/3.5 and 105/2.5?
 
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This got me interested in the 105 2.5 AI-S so I bought one off a distant craigslist ad from an owner who is not camera savvy and it arrived today. A quarter the price that ebay shows they have sold for recently. Got lucky, it is perfect, including the 1984 initial store purchase receipt and a bunch of other sorta related stuff like rolls of film/cases/polarizer. Works good on my D7100, now to take some pictures with it...(don't know what to do with the film).
 
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Thanks, Luke. It's not a gap which bothers me very often, and I see KEH prices are rather high for the two they, have so I think I'll hold off for a while.
You might look into a Voigtländer 75mm f2.5 Color-Heliar, Jim. In Ai-S mount of course.
Tiny and excellent image quality.
Build quality leaves nothing to be desired either.
 
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As you look at my list in my previous post, you see there is a gap between 55mm and 105mm. I see there is an 85mm f/2, but I have seen nothing written about it that I can remember.

Is the 85/2 up to the standard of the other AIS lenses such as the 55/3.5 and 105/2.5?
"In the Day", some complained that the 105/2.5 was "too sharp" and was not flattering for portraits. The 85/2 when introduced was aimed at portraits. The 85/2 wide-open is a bit softer than the 105/2.5 wide-open, personally I believe it's the wider aperture responsible for the softness. The 85/2 Ai replaced the 85/1.8, and some preferred the F1.8. I have all three.

The 85/2 Ais, wide-open on the Nikon Df.

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DSC_7401 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

At F2.8,

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At F4,

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Fall 2016, Manassas Battlefield by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

The 85/2 is not much bigger than a 50/1.4.
 
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"Very Different Lighting"...

Nikkor 85/1.8, wide-open, 1/6th Sec, ISO 12,800.

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Navarre Pier by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

This shot picks up the swirly Bokeh of the 85/1.8. The 85/2 is smoother.
Of course I never mind a lens that makes the world swirl around my Daughter.
 
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"In the Day", some complained that the 105/2.5 was "too sharp" and was not flattering for portraits. The 85/2 when introduced was aimed at portraits. The 85/2 wide-open is a bit softer than the 105/2.5 wide-open, personally I believe it's the wider aperture responsible for the softness. The 85/2 Ai replaced the 85/1.8, and some preferred the F1.8. I have all three.

The 85/2 Ais, wide-open on the Nikon Df.

View attachment 1599111DSC_7401 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

At F2.8,

View attachment 1599112DSC_7402 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

At F4,

View attachment 1599113Fall 2016, Manassas Battlefield by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

The 85/2 is not much bigger than a 50/1.4.

Thanks for the information and examples, Brian. Looks like the 85/2 is a pretty decent performer.

Interestingly enough, I am currently reading Galen Rowell's Vision, The Art of Adventure Photography. In the chapter on equipment he describes the Nikon cameras and lenses he uses and states that 90% of his images were (or could have been) made with his 24mm f/2.8 and 85mm f/2.

He said the 24mm f/2.8 AF was his most used lens. Since the 85 f/2 was not made as an AF lens, he must have been using this AI-s version.
 
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Nikon has had an 85 in their lineup since the 1940s. The Nikkor 8.5cm F2 was made in RF mount for Nikon, Contax, and Leica. (I have them) This Sonnar formula lens could not be adapted to F-Mount, as was the 105/2.5. So- Nikon brought out the double-Gauss 6 element in 4 group 85/1.8. It was Big on the compact FM and FE, the push in the later 70s was to a more compact design- the 5-element in 5-group 85/2 was introduced. Multi-coated optics meant that grouping of elements to increase transmission was not as important. Autofocus came out, Nikon went back to an 85/1.8.
 
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Excellent discussion & samples all! Anyone care to guess which Nikon made these? Do not use the supplied EXIF to decide: it is inaccurate:

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D850 with MF Zeiss Milvus 50MM F1.4, photo taken with ISO64 F1.4 focus on the centre flower, like the front and back bokeh, awesome combo Zeiss Nikon D850.
 
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Bee on its way to the heart of the flower, D850 Zeiss Milvus 50mm F1.4, shot at F1.4.
 
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