Nikon TC-17

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Hello everyone......
I have a fine 70-200VR but I think I need a little more reach.

My question is this:
With the above lens does the TC-17 add $300-400 more reach?

If I have 4.9' of min. focal distance what does the TC-17 do to that number?

Thanks,
 
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You lose 1.5 stops of light, image quality declines, and you keep the close-focusing distance.
 
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Bob, I just got back from a week at Yellowstone and the Tetons with that combo. I used it about 30% of the time, the rest was with "the Beast" 28-70. I have not gotten into PP yet as we are hooking up a new PC right now, but the images that I saw on my Epson P2000 looked pretty good, and it was really a joy to use.

Hope this helps.
 
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Ya know, Gale, I bought mine US version, but if I had it to do over again I would probably buy the imported and save the money.....maybe that's a solution.
 
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Is the 1.7 the way to go or does the shorter reach 1.4 give you a sharper shot.

I realize one gives you an effective range of a 420mm lens vs 510mm.

If the quality is much better I would rather have a sharp 420mm range over a 510mm

Are there any of you who Have both and can give their opinion????.

((I don't have the box in front of me but I think the lens box mentions 1.4 & 2.0. Just got the lens last week so it has to be pretty new. Had to wait 1 week while the store got more in. Did I notice that correctly. If so why not the 1.7. If I am wrong, sorry for the last paragraph)).

Thanks
Dan
 
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I've shot both

The TC14EII is definetly sharper on the 70-200. The 1.7 is passable but not really up to my standards.

Tom Hogan says that he uses the TC17 rather than the TC14 as the 14 doesn't make enough of a difference when he's travelling to be worth it.

Personally, I'd stick with the 14...sharper images and the lens focuses faster than with the 17 as well.
 
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It's a great combo from what I hear (70-200 + 1.7)but the true telephoto range would be 280mm (1.4) and 320mm (1.7). With the 1.5 crop factor the numbers will be higher but I personally disregard the crop factor as a true telephoto aid.

I have used the 1.7 on my 300f/4 and I have the 1.4. With the 1.7 I found the difference in sharpness negliable if on a tripod and shot properly, but there was difference nonetheless. So, I bought the 1.4 and I notice no visible loss in sharpness (I'm sure it's there but pretty darn hard to see). With the wonders of the 70-200 I'm sure the 1.7 will give you no problems, plus with the VR you'll still be able to hand-hold and get wonderful shots.

Good luck in your choice!! ;)


Joel.



Joel.
 
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Jim & Joel,

Thanks for the feed back. both of you have solidified my choice to go with the TC14. I have had enough of the soft shot acceptance standards.

Jim as we have said in e-mails, why do people accept sub-standard pictures after spending 1,000's for their equipment. Never again will I accept things that don't meet "Old Nikon" standards.

Jim, having seen your work, your standards are good enough for me. Looks like a TC14 is in my very near future.

Thanks again

Dan
 
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Late as usual, but I have to go with the guys above - at least for now. I haven't used the 1.7 enough to give it a fair chance yet, but from what I've seen so far, it isn't up to the 1.4's standards. Focusing is noticeably slower and the images just weren't as crisp. But I have to admit I have been throwing several new variables into the mix lately, including a D2X, so image quality may be due to several 'break-in' adjustments between me and the new stuff.
 
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Thanks everyone,
Now I'm not sure if I should purchase the 1.4 or the 1.7........

Either way I think I'll purchase the import version to save a little money.
Both the US and import version come with a 1 year warranty so I don't see any advantage to the US version.
 
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I shot this at full extension with the 1.7 on my VR, i don't think it's too bad.

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If you go to my pbase account linked below my sig most of my baseball shots where with the 1.7 (keep in mind I'm an amateur) some are not too bad I think.
 
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Bob,

I think that $400 (or about 1/4 of the price of the 70-200) to increase your reach by 67% is worth it, given the (limited in my eye) degradation in quality and the reasonable max aperture of f/4.8. A very reasonable trade-off to me, compared to getting another fairly large lens, the 300mm f/4 which I can't get down to sub-200mm in a heartbeat if I have to! ;-)

Here are a few examples:

220m at f/6.3
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340mm at f/4.8
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340mm at f/5.6
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340mm at f/8
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Excellent photos.....

Just what I trying to achieve.

I'm going to purchase the 1.7.

Thanks again,
 
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I'm with Philippe, the TC-17 makes more sense especially when you consider the pricing. Having previously used a 70-300 before getting my 70-200VR I knew I wanted at least 300mm reach, so I just felt the 280mm with TC-14 wasn't enough. Maybe there's a slight drop in sharpness compared to not using TC but I can't say that I've noticed it in real-world shots.

Here's a sampling of shots, all at 340mm. and in most cases near wide-open:

http://www.pbase.com/jkohn/image/38752037/original

http://www.pbase.com/jkohn/image/44448412/original

http://www.pbase.com/jkohn/image/43539518/original

http://www.pbase.com/jkohn/image/44448722/original
 
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I'm of the opinion that if I throw thousands and thousands at camera and lenses, I want a really great quality converter in between the two. I went with the TC14E-II and the TC20E-II. The 14 stays on the camera all the time with the 70-200VR, and I really hate the 20 and never use it - sorry I ever bought it as I never shoot tripod for distance, only landscapes. The 14 gives incredibly sharp images - razor sharp.
www.pbase.com/sjackson/summer2005 are all taken with this setup. There is NO degradation in image quality at all. I'd
 
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Back to the drawing board.

I hate to buy both, but I am sure I can always sell the one that I don't Like or need. I just want to make sure in the "real world" I am not wasting my money on something I am not 99.99% happy with.

Because of all the "prior" focus problems I had with the first D2x and lens , I am really going over board to make sure I do my research before I buy. Like anything else, until you use it yourself, one never nows how it will perform. At least with the replies from this forum, I fell I am increaseing my chances of getting something i like.

Thanks

Dan
 
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Back to the drawing board.

I hate to buy both, but I am sure I can always sell the one that I don't Like or need. I just want to make sure in the "real world" I am not wasting my money on something I am not 99.99% happy with.

Because of all the "prior" focus problems I had with the first D2x and lens , I am really going over board to make sure I do my research before I buy. Like anything else, until you use it yourself, one never nows how it will perform. At least with the replies from this forum, I fell I am increaseing my chances of getting something I like.

Thanks

Dan
 
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If you don't have a D2X, then go for the TC17E. I got quite a lot of nice photos by D100+70-200+TC17E in the past. However, I am not very pleased with those captured by D2X+70-200+TC17E. Hope this help.
 

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