Review Nikon Z 6 & 24-70mm f/4S Impression/Musing/Review (long/image heavy)

gryphon1911 · Dec 15, 2018

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All thoughts and ideas are my own personal beliefs based on years of working in the photo industry. While they may not be 100% right, or you may not agree with them all, they are just that, opinions that are open to interpretation, speculation and debate. Please feel free to comment on any aspects of the post in the comments below.

INTRODUCTION
There has been a lot of hype and speculation surrounding the new Nikon mirrorless camera. Rumor sites have been buzzing for months and fanboys have made it out to be the next coming of Jesus and haters have dismissed the camera as an utter failure even before the official announcement. To say that this is a polarizing camera is an understatement. Even after people have gotten their hands on them, we are getting reviews and opinions based on a limited amount of time shooting with the cameras.

That is nothing new if you have been around the tech blogs, and especially the photography forums.
We are going to stay away from that kind of talk and look at the camera from my perspective. A years long Nikon SLR/DSLR shooter as well as an ex-Fujifilm and a current Micro Four Thirds/Olympus shooter.

August 23, 2018, Nikon announced the following cameras, lenses and accessories for their new z-mount, 135 sensor size (FX in Nikon speak) mirrorless camera.

BODY
The Nikon Z6 is the all arounder, 24mp camera. Could be considered the mirrorless version of the D750. MSRP is $1999 body only or $2599 with the 24-70/4 lens. If you bought during launch and got a camera/lens bundle, Nikon discounted the FTZ adapter by $100.

The first launched Z7 is the high megapixel camera, 45mp. Your almost D850 but mirrorless option.
Price is $3399 body only or $3999 with the 24-70/4, same FTZ adapter discount as with the Z6.

LENS
Nikkor S-Line 24-70mm f/4
Price $999
Nikkor S-Line 35mm f/1.8
Price $849
Nikkor S-Line 50mm f/1.8
Price $599

ACCESSORIES
Battery Grip - release date TBD
FTZ Adapter - allows for full function of ~90 existing Nikon f-mount lenses and potentially manual use of D type and older lenses.
Price $249 or $149 if purchased with a camera and lens combo.

THE TECH STUFF
Let's dive into the technical aspects of the new cameras.
Camera Body
What I'm looking for from the Z6 is to see if it can handle the job of what I bought the D750 for.

Just so you have an idea in your head of the Z6 and how it compare to other mirrorless cameras on the market. Series of images below were pulled from CameraSize website.

After these images and comparisons, we'll get into the initial thoughts on the camera itself.

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front
Nikon DF / Nikon D750 / Nikon Z6

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top
Nikon DF / Nikon D750 / Nikon Z6

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all with the Nikon 50mm f/1.8G attached (Z6 has FTZ adapter)
Nikon DF / Nikon D750 / Nikon Z6

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native f-mount cameras have Nikon 50mm f/1.8G
Z6 has native 50mm f/1.8S in middle
adapted 50mm f/1.8G on far right
Nikon Df / Nikon Z6

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front view
Nikon Z6 / Olympus OMD EM1 Mark II

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front view
Nikon Z6 / Olympus OMD EM1 Mark II / Fujifilm XH1 / Fujifilm XT3

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similar fields of view
Nikon Z6 - native 50mm / Nikon Z6 - adapted 50mm / Olympus OMD EM1 Mark II - M. Zuiko 25mm f/1.8

Lens Lineup
Out of the gate three lenses were announced. A 24-70/4, 35/1.8 and 50/1.8
The 50mm was not initially available during pre-order.

My initial testing will bring me to one initial decision. Can the native 24-70/4S hold its own in IQ versus the veteran f-mount 24-70/2.8G. If IQ is something that is a wash, I can do without the f/2.8 on that lens and replace it.

Accessories
I did not get anything else outside the FTZ adapter, so I have nothing first hand that I can report on in this regard.

Why the FTZ Adapter Matters More Than You Might Think
While it is always the best option to use the native mount lenses for a given system, in the early stages of the release, only so many lenses can be made to go along with the cameras. Nikon makes some great lenses in the f-mount space and if you are like me, you have a large library of those lenses.

Seems like Nikon listened and put out an adapter that is quite versatile. Full functionality for lenses that are AF-S had AF-P and E or G type lenses. Nikon has a full list of what they consider compatible on their website and I recommend checking that out.

I've used quite a few f-mount lenses on the FTZ and Z6, more detail on that later, but just as a teaser, I've been very happy with the experience so far.

If the f-mount lenses is CPU enabled, the FTZ adapter has the ability to use the aperture lever of the lens to shift exposure for you. THis is done via a lever arm within the f-mount side of the adapter. This could make a potentially stop down metered, manual focus lens a fully meterable lens that just needs to be manually focused.

If the lens does not have a CPU, then it can still be mounted to the FTZ adapter. You change the aperture value by using the aperture ring on the lens. The only issue is that there is no way built into the camera for the aperture value to be recorded, except the widest aperture that is in the non-CPU lens data menu in the camera.

I challenge Nikon to either update the Z cameras firmware to allow a command dial to match the aperture ring value manually or to create another adapter for those non-CPU lenses with an aperture feeler arm to record those values from the lens directly.

Future potential
With the new z-mount, Nikon engineers are claiming that it is possible for them to make lenses that are fully functional as fast as f/0.65. They also claim that the communication bandwidth in the new mount can handle quite a lot and should be sufficient for all they want to do in the future, potentially for the next 100 years.

Performance
Here, we are going to be looking at overall system performance, native and adapted lens performance optically and AF/MF, metering.

gryphon1911 · Dec 15, 2018

Overall System Performance
From powering on to waking from sleep the system performs well. One of the biggest issues I had early on with the Fuji X system was power on and wake from sleep. Lost a lot of potential images because of the lag. The Z6 is not that way at all. That is one of the first things that I look at when evaluating a new system.

Is it as quick to power on as a DSLR. No. Is it going to make me lose the opportunity to grab an image. No, I've never missed a shot. That is from powered down to powered on. Waking from sleep is actually faster.

Even the menu diving, touch screen interface is quick and snappy, getting you setup how you want quickly.

Auto Focus
AF-S performance is very quick with native lenses and just as good and possibly just a little bit slower with some adapted f-mount lenses. This is really lens dependent.
Sometimes while using the 24-70/4S, I did not realize that the camera had focused. It was that quick and quiet. The other thing is that the AF confirmation is not a dot in the bottom corner like it is on a DSLR. The focus box is red, and then turns green when AF is acquired.

I didn't notice too many issues with AF locking that a DSLR would not have had an issue with either. Contrast detect AF systems need good contrast and there were some times, like when trying to get images of the umbrella girl fountain below that it did hunt or could not get focused. I set the AF point on the statues face and there was enough shadow and low contrast that the system did struggle a little. Post processing allowed me to pull the shadows up in post processing.

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Nikon 24-70/4S Z-Mount
1/320, f/4, ISO 100 @ 70mm

Then we look at the street image below where I just composed and fired straight off on the lady with the bike. AF point on her face and the camera nailed focus with no issues. Focus more was S-AF.

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Nikon 24-70/4S Z-Mount
1/160, f/5.6, ISO 100 @ 54mm

AF-C performance might take some time to get a full accounting. I do not have a lot of upcoming shoots where I can really push it and test it like I would with the other DSLRs in my stable.

I will say this. I was never a fan of fully automated AF like the AUTO AF or 3D AF on the DSLRs from Nikon. I much preferred to use the single point AF or the D9/D25 in AF-C modes. The Z6 doesn't change my mind on that either. Going forward, I'm most likely going to use the same tried and true AF modes I've always used on my Nikon cameras, and will do it happily.

I did get a chance to shoot some dogs running about at a local dog park. Far from a definitive test, as I only got to check out single point and dynamic area AF using the Nikon 300mm f/4E PF on the FTZ adapter. I did get some shots, but I still have a lot to learn about the AF system. I've heard from some that I should have used the wide area S or L for tracking and would have gotten a better hit rate. Will post future impressions when I get a chance to use those other focusing modes. I also shot at high extended, which might have been an issue as well.

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 300mm f/4E PF + FTZ
1/320, f/4, ISO 1100

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 300mm f/4E PF + FTZ
1/1000, f/4, ISO 4000

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 300mm f/4E PF + FTZ
1/1000, f/4, ISO 3600

Manual Focusing
On native lenses, the ring that you would normally associate with manual focusing is actually a programmable function ring. By default Nikon set it up to be manual focus, but it can be exposure compensation or aperture values.

This is a focus by wire system, meaning that the focus ring is not directly hard wired to the gears that move the glass elements. Instead, it sends electrical signals to the motors to tell them what to do. This allows variable speeds on the focus to occur. Some people may looks this, but for video, this could be an issue as it makes it difficult to hear impossible for the lens to do a pull focus consistently.

Focus Peaking
This is one thing that I wanted to test out quite a bit. Having used adapted lenses on Micro Four Thirds a lot, I use focus peaking with yellow highlights. I setup the Nikon the same way. I like having the peaking and it makes manual focusing much less of an issue. On the Olympus using adapted lenses, you must press a button to activate the peaking feature, then it stays active until you press the shutter and if you power the camera off or it goes to sleep, you must press the button you assigned to peaking to re-activate.

Nikon's solution is, in my opinion, much better. If you are using a manual focus lens with the FTZ adapter, the peaking is on and stays on. If you are using a native Z-mount lens, then the peaking kicks in when you manually focus, either by selecting it or whenever you use the focus ring. Thank you Nikon for making this solution work the way I think is best.

Here are some manual focus only lens sample images.

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Nikon 135mm f/3.5 AIS
1/500, f/5.6, ISO 100

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Nikon 135mm f/3.5 AIS
1/640, f/4, ISO 100

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Nikon 135mm f/3.5 AIS
1/250, f/8, ISO 100

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Nikon 135mm f/3.5 AIS
1/250, f/4, ISO 100

Viewfinder
The viewfinder is excellent and the best EVF I've had the pleasure of using. It is crisp and clear, low levels of smearing when moving quickly following subjects.

I used the camera in bright sunlight and had no issues with the eye sensor getting tricked and turning the EVF off while I was looking through it.

While not specifically about the viewfinder persay, I do want to mention the modes switching between the EVF and the rear LCD. There are 4 modes. EVF only, LCD only, Auto Switch and Prioritize Viewfinder.

They are all pretty well described, so I will not go through a description of all of them. However, I use prioritize viewfinder. What this mode does is keep the viewfinder as the main display, but when you want to review images or hit a menu option, the rear LCD is employed at those times.

For those who want to shoot off camera flash, here is a tip for you. Get familiar with d8 - Apply Settings to Live View in the custom settings menu. This option switches between the EVF showing you a real time view of what the exposure settings will do to the image versus a standard bright view. Why does this matter? In a DSLR, the optical viewfinder shows you just a through the lens view of the scene. If shooting portraits indoors and you are using your shutter speed to kill the ambient light by shooting at 1/200 or faster shutter speeds, the EVF view would be very dark and hard for you to see your subjects and frame accurately.

Use the d8 option to switch between these 2 modes. I'm familiar with this from shooting portraits on the Olympus M43 cameras. Olympus added an option called S-OVF, which basically does the same as what I've described above. It simulates the view so that it always looks bright and "normal". You can also put this menu setting in the "i" menu or the My Menu section. I placed mine in the "i" menu.

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Rear LCD
Again, another great display here. The big issue with some - it is only a tilt screen and not fully articulating. For me, any articulation is good. Fully articulating is better for me with video modes, but I have an external monitor for that kind of work.

F-Mount Lenses I've Tested On The Z6

Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 VC (generation 1) - some jittery movement if the AF is way out of focus, but much better and more consistent if the focus is not that far off. Exposure functionality is 100%

ZhongYi Mitakon Creator 85mm f/2 - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus (this lens auto focus' in the opposite direction of the other Nikon manual focus lenses.

Nikon 20mm f/3.5 AIS - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

Nikon 28mm f/2.8 AIS - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

Nikon 135mm f/3.5 AIS - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

Nikon 35mm f/2.8 Nikkor-S Auto - Nikon lists this as incompatible, so I did not try it out.

Nikon 55mm f/3.5 Macro - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus - great macro option.

Nikon 105mm f/2.5 - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

Nikon 300mm f/4E PF VR - perfect AF and exposure metering

Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8G - perfect AF and exposure metering

Nikon 28-85mm f/3.5-4.5D - perfect exposure metering, but just manual focus

Nikon 80-200mm f/4.5-5.6D - perfect exposure metering, but just manual focus

Nikon 50mm f/1.8G - perfect AF and exposure metering

Nikon 300mm f/4.5 AI - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

Nikon 200mm f/4 Pre-AI - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

Nikon 180mm f/2.8 ED AIS - meters perfect (Stop down metering required) but does not record aperture values used, manual focus

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/60, f/4, ISO 4500 @ 54mm (hand held)

Batteries

The Z6/Z7 cameras use the newer EN-EL15b batteries. These are very similar to the EN-EL15a, except that allow for in camera USB-C charging.

I have spare EN-EL15a batteries as well as some third party ones, so I tested them in the Z6.

Results are as follows - prices of the battery when I bought them :
EN-EL15a - same performance as the EN-EL15b ($60)
Bower - worked fine to power the camera, about 2/3 of the longevity ($20)
RAVPower - worked fine to power the camera, about 3/4 of the longevity ($25 - 2 batteries + charger)
ProMaster - worked fine to power the camera, about 3/4 of the longevity. ($25)

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/60, f/4, ISO 2800 @ 62mm (hand held)
Ergonomics
Feel In The Hand
The camera feels good in the hand. The grip is deep enough to feel secure if holding the camera in one hand. Some people have had issues with reaching the 2 function buttons next to the mount, but I have had no such issues. I might have longer fingers than most, though or perhaps my grip on the camera is different.

The little thumb grip is a nice touch as well.

My pinkie fingers does fall off the bottom of the grip, but to be honest, it is not really bothering me that much with the current lenses I am using. I might see about getting an l-bracket or similar thing if I find myself using larger lenses.

The way I feel about these things is that I'd rather have smaller and add on to make it larger than have something larger that you are stuck with the size.

Button Placement
The buttons feel familiar to me, coming from a Nikon DSLR. The power switch is still around the shutter release button. Love it there.

The exposure comp, ISO and movie record button are just behind the shutter and the same setup as in the D500/D850. That's good for me as an owner of the D500.

The AF joystick is great, too as I have become enamoured with it since having it on the D500. I've setup the center press of the AF joystick to reset the AF point to center position. I've also setup the OK button in shooting mode to be the punch in zoom, used when I need to verify focus. I did this because I use zoom view quite a bit and the OK button is easier to reach than the + magnifying glass button.

Some people want to have the rear LCD used as a touchpad for AF points. My Olympus cameras have that and I did not like it and turned it off. Too much accidental touching and it just didn't feel right to me. I appreciate the joystick implementation of the AF point selector.

I like having the AF modes as a button on the camera body, like on the Df or D500, but the Z puts it in a menu option. This is easily accessible through the "i" button and since the menus are fully touch compatible, switching is quick and easy, but it will take me some time to get used to going into a menu option instead of just pushing a button and turning a dial.

Drive modes are accessed via button at the bottom right of the camera body. Again, like the focus mode, I would have preferred to have it like on the D500 or Df as a button and command dial turn or a dedicated switch. Perhaps higher end bodies in the future will have this. Don't get me wrong, it is a perfectly usable setup, it is just different than what is in DSLR land and will take some time to get used to working this way.

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/30, f/8, ISO 3600 @ 31mm (hand held)
Image Quality - Stills
Nikon is my favorite camera as far as IQ goes. Great dynamic range, love the colors and the files are very pliable in both JPG or RAW configurations.

There has been some mention of banding and it certainly is true that it is there...but you really need to push the exposure to over 5 stops to run into it. I cannot honestly say that I have very had a need to push it that far. Even if you did, there are post processing options that will help with correcting that banding issue, so all is not lost.

The Z-Mount 24-70mm f/4S lens is a great lens. It focus' quickly and the zoom is stiff enough to prevent zoom creep. It is very sharp even wide open. I could shoot this lenses at f/4 all day and all night with no issues. It is very similar in the way that I can shoot my micro four thirds lenses wide open without sacrificing image quality. The benefits of a good contrast detect AF systems helps with this too by eliminating AF accuracy issues with a separate PDAF module.

No surprise, though if you are familiar with our reviews - I like to let the images speak for themselves. Check them out below!

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Nikon 70-300/4.5-5.6E AF-P VR
1/320, f/5.6, ISO 4000 @ 300mm

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Nikon 70-300/4.5-5.6E AF-P VR
1/320, f/5.6, ISO 8000 @ 300mm
The image below is at ISO 18,000. Just wanted to point that out and it is not a typographical error.

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Nikon 70-300/4.5-5.6E AF-P VR
1/320, f/5.6, ISO 18000 @ 300mm

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Nikon 70-300/4.5-5.6E AF-P VR
1/320, f/5.6, ISO 1600 @ 300mm
This image below shows off the IBIS a bit. Hand held and shot using the rear touch screen to activate the shutter release.

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Nikon 24-70/4S z-mount
1/24, f/4, ISO 250 @ 24mm

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Nikon 24-70/4S
1/100, f/5.6, ISO 100 @ 56mm

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Nikon 24-70/4S
1/80, f/5.6, ISO 125 @ 70mm

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Nikon 24-70/4S
1/60, f/5.6, ISO100 @ 38mm

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Nikon 24-70/4S
1/200, f/5.6, ISO 100 @ 70mm

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Nikon 24-70/4S
1/60, f/8, ISO 100 @ 54mm

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Image Quality - Video
Nikon provides both 4k and 1080p video options. 1080p gives you the ability to shoot in 120fps for some cool slow motion effects. No grading, sharpening on the video below, shot in 1080p 30 and 1080p 120, basically straight out of the camera. I'll probably go back and grade, sharpen and then republish for a side by side. Slow mo and transitions in Premiere Elements 2019.

Final Thoughts
You never know what you will think or feel about a new camera until you get it in your hands and have some quality time shooting with it.

Even after a short time with the Z6, I love how it gives me all the stuff I love about shooting a Nikon DSLR mixed with all there is to love about the Olympus OMD cameras.

If this is the quality that Nikon has started with, and the trend/trajectory is for this to only get better, then we are in for a great ride and Nikon should have a great stronghold not only in the mirrorless stills market, but also a strong video camera contender.

Right now, the Nikon Df is still my favorite camera of all time, but the Z series mirrorless could get close to taking that #1 spot. It will take some time to figure that out.

Some additional images for your viewing:

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/400, f/4, ISO 100 @ 70mm
McLaren 720s In Green

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/80, f/11, ISO 100 @ 47mm

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/250, f/8, ISO 100 @ 70mm

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/640, f/4, ISO 100 @ 35mm

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Nikon 24-70mm f/4S
1/50, f/11, ISO 100 @ 24mm

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 50mm f/1.8G + FTZ
1/50, f/3.5, ISO 250

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 50mm f/1.8G + FTZ
1/400, f/1.8, ISO 100

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 300mm f/4E PF + FTZ
1/1000, f/4, ISO 4500

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Nikon Z6 & Nikon 300mm f/4E PF + FTZ
1/320, f/4, ISO 3200

trenchmonkey · Dec 15, 2018

Thanks, Andrew (y)

appreciate the info. and work you put into this.

BillM · Dec 15, 2018

Thank you Andrew, very informative review!

Panther · Dec 15, 2018

Andrew,
VERY NICELY DONE!

gryphon1911 · Dec 18, 2018

Just wanted to pop in and give an update.

Portrait shoot this weekend:

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Shutter Shock:
Went into a deep dive after processing the images. The camera and lenses are fantastic. The 24-70/4S is a natural portrait lens IMHO, giving great base images to work with. Sharp enough, but not too crazy as to require a post processing workflow to tame any kind of bite. The 35/1.8 is noticeably sharper. This is in a "pixel peeping" capacity.

Given the overcast conditions and the focal lengths used, I had quite a few shots in the 1/60 to 1/80 shutter speed range as I used the zoom lens a lot in the 40-70mm range, as you'd expect for portraits. I did bring along and used the D500 with the Tamron 70-200mm f/1.8VC.

Again, in a "pixel peeping" mode, I did notice some shutter shock artifacts in those ranges. I didn't think about it until after the shoot. In the future, I will definitely be using the electronic first curtain shutter (EFCS) when I know that I will be using the focal lengths and shutter speeds in the shutter shock range. The artifacting was gone once I hit 1/100 and faster speeds.

Just wanted to put that out there that there is indeed a need to look out for shutter shock. Luckily, it was not severe enough that I lost any pictures to it.

Auto Area Auto Focus:
I used this for the entire photo shoot. I have never really used it before on any camera because, well, to be honest I never trusted it. So after experimenting with it a little, I decided to give it a full chance. Auto area AF with face detect active was used for 95% of the shots. In the portrait shoot above, I shot over 250 images.

Guess how many were out of focus?

2

Yes, 2 total. Much better than I thought it would be. I still need to figure out why that is, but once I do, I'll be able to mitigate the issue and have 100% success.
The other mode I used was using the OK button for tracking.
I was a little confused by the reviewers who stated that in order to use the tracking you had to do the following:

activate auto area AF option
press the OK button/touch the rear LCD
move the tracking box over the subject
press OK again
camera tracks

In practice, this is not what I found.
in reality, all I needed to do was:

activate auto area AF
press OK
move the box over the subject to track (didn't need to use the thumb stick or touch the LCD I just did a focus and recompose move)
half press the shutter to start focusing and it tracked as well.

While there is an extra step in there to press the OK button, after that you are up and running quickly. Between that feature and face tracking it made the process of the portrait shoot much easier.

Bijan · Dec 18, 2018

Nice Review ... I read every word ... Thanks for your time & efforts ...

gryphon1911 · Dec 18, 2018

richella said:
Great review. I just need to decide between Z6 and Z7.

If you don't need the extra megapixels or need full sensor readout for video the Z 6 is the one I would recommend.

MNglass · Dec 18, 2018

gryphon1911 said:
Just wanted to pop in and give an update.

Shutter Shock:
Went into a deep dive after processing the images. The camera and lenses are fantastic. The 24-70/4S is a natural portrait lens IMHO, giving great base images to work with. Sharp enough, but not too crazy as to require a post processing workflow to tame any kind of bite. The 35/1.8 is noticeably sharper. This is in a "pixel peeping" capacity.

Given the overcast conditions and the focal lengths used, I had quite a few shots in the 1/60 to 1/80 shutter speed range as I used the zoom lens a lot in the 40-70mm range, as you'd expect for portraits. I did bring along and used the D500 with the Tamron 70-200mm f/1.8VC.

Again, in a "pixel peeping" mode, I did notice some shutter shock artifacts in those ranges. I didn't think about it until after the shoot. In the future, I will definitely be using the electronic first curtain shutter (EFCS) when I know that I will be using the focal lengths and shutter speeds in the shutter shock range. The artifacting was gone once I hit 1/100 and faster speeds.

Just wanted to put that out there that there is indeed a need to look out for shutter shock. Luckily, it was not severe enough that I lost any pictures to it.

Auto Area Auto Focus:
I used this for the entire photo shoot. I have never really used it before on any camera because, well, to be honest I never trusted it. So after experimenting with it a little, I decided to give it a full chance. Auto area AF with face detect active was used for 95% of the shots. In the portrait shoot above, I shot over 250 images.

Guess how many were out of focus?

2

Yes, 2 total. Much better than I thought it would be. I still need to figure out why that is, but once I do, I'll be able to mitigate the issue and have 100% success.
The other mode I used was using the OK button for tracking.
I was a little confused by the reviewers who stated that in order to use the tracking you had to do the following:

activate auto area AF option

press the OK button/touch the rear LCD

move the tracking box over the subject

press OK again

camera tracks

In practice, this is not what I found.
in reality, all I needed to do was:

activate auto area AF

press OK

move the box over the subject to track (didn't need to use the thumb stick or touch the LCD I just did a focus and recompose move)

half press the shutter to start focusing and it tracked as well.

While there is an extra step in there to press the OK button, after that you are up and running quickly. Between that feature and face tracking it made the process of the portrait shoot much easier.

Andrew -
A very coherent review backed up with some representative photographic work. Thanks for all this.

Those of us coming from the M43/MILC world fully understand the pitfalls of shutter shock. I think the surprise would have been if there were NO shutter shock in the Z's. EFCS (or full silent) pretty much solves it with caveats (the speed cap).

I really had to laugh at the 0.8% failure rate given all the internet angst and whining that Nikon can't automatically focus on the third cell from the middle on the closest cornea . . .

I'm also a bit shocked that you found the auto area with face detect so relatively simple to use . . . and it obviously worked. It ought to be tattooed on the back of a number of reviewer's hands .. .

bpdougd · Dec 18, 2018

Auto area with face detect is what I will be trying tomorrow at the grandkids' Christmas party. This thread/review helped demystify that for me.

gryphon1911 · Dec 18, 2018

MNglass said:
Andrew -
A very coherent review backed up with some representative photographic work. Thanks for all this.

Those of us coming from the M43/MILC world fully understand the pitfalls of shutter shock. I think the surprise would have been if there were NO shutter shock in the Z's. EFCS (or full silent) pretty much solves it with caveats (the speed cap).

I really had to laugh at the 0.8% failure rate given all the internet angst and whining that Nikon can't automatically focus on the third cell from the middle on the closest cornea . . .

I'm also a bit shocked that you found the auto area with face detect so relatively simple to use . . . and it obviously worked. It ought to be tattooed on the back of a number of reviewer's hands .. .

I had opportunity to shoot tonight at a Chinese lantern festival. Images in aperture priority mode would have fallen within the shutter shock range. I mitigated that possibility by shooting manual at 1/100, f/4 and Auto ISO with an exposure comp off -1.

First glance shows no issues with shutter shock using the 24-70/4S.

I also had opportunity to cover a live show there, and put the different AF modes to work using the Z 6 and there f-mount 70-300/4.5-5.6E AF-P VR, the FX version. This combo is killer, and again, first glance shows high promise. I employed Auto area again, some wide-s and tried dynamic area AF.

Images will be shared once I get a chance to process them, hopefully sometime tomorrow.

I honestly don't know what these reviewers are doing. Maybe they don't have enough time or they are not shown how to properly use the features.

It makes me doubt how horrible they are starting the EOS-R performs and is to use. I might need to see if I can get one to try out from my local camera store.

That whole thing is over of the reasons I want to start my own YouTube channel and do some honest reviews. The trick there is finding the time to produce the content.

gryphon1911 · Dec 19, 2018

Just FYI for those interested in face detect accuracy. I continued to use it in situations like this:

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Outside, and the only ambient light for the scene was the LED lights you see behind her. Impressed me that it was able to not only find the face but was able to have enough contrast to lock properly. I did use flash as well in this image.

Pa · Dec 19, 2018

gryphon1911 said:
I also had opportunity to cover a love show there...

!!

(I know it was an inadvertent typo, but...)

Pa · Dec 19, 2018

Thom Hogan has gotten some pretty good live action shots with his Z7 and he's pretty positive on the AF performance.

gryphon1911 · Dec 19, 2018

Pa said:
!!

(I know it was an inadvertent typo, but...)

I need to stop using my PHONE to respond to the forums. LOL