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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by lbhs_rwb, Jun 15, 2007.

  1. lbhs_rwb


    Oct 16, 2006
    So, for a while I've been thinking of going to Brooks institute when I'm older. The thing is, if possible, i'd like to get a PhD in photography, the thing is, I don't think that Brooks has a PhD program, but they are one of the best schools (for photography) in America, right? Another thing, I have Florida pre-paid, so if I go to a public school in Florida, all my classes are paid for. So instead of going straight to private school and paying for it all, I should go to a public one for my bachelors. But I want to start with my photo classes right away. Any suggestions?

    I know i'm rambling, but any help would be appreciated :D 
  2. cali-kid


    May 26, 2007
    Houston, Texas
    Speaking as someone that's paying student loans for my Bachwlors and Master degree, take the FREE education.......:confused: 

  3. Gale


    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    Go to the florida school. Get all the education you can. Major in Photography or PJ and minor in marketing.

    I have read and it has been said by all the pro photogs I read. 1/3 shooting and 2/3 marketing and selling etc.:>)))))

    Talk to a counselor at the school.
    Hopefully they can help
  4. Jaws


    Mar 27, 2007
    Columbia, MD

    That is so true. Being a professional photographer isn't just about taking photos, but it's also trying to run a business at the same time.
  5. HSNewman


    Aug 17, 2006
    From the experience of my three kids who are not kids anymore and several college professor friends, go for a liberal education at the best smaller undergrad school you can afford. You will most likely mix with more motivated students, have a closer relationship with the talented faculty, have a better chance at a graduate fellowship at a top university and, in the long run, have better networking opportunities. I hope I am not sounding snobbish, but large state universities can be impersonal for undergraduates, with the risk of getting distracted by the crowd. You are fortuneate that you know what you want to do. I wish you the best of luck.
    PS - stay way from credit cards. My kids were still paying off theirs with at 18% interest into their thirties.

  6. Yep, take Gale's advice. And I have to echo Chris's sentiments.....as someone who paid her own way through school and left grad school owing $30k in student loans....take the free education!!
  7. PJohnP


    Feb 5, 2005
    Micah :

    We're going to assume for the sake of discussion that you've carefully assessed what you want to study, and made a considered decision. If that's not the case, return to "Go" and start-over in the consideration.

    If you've been admitted to one of the better state universities, get your bachelor's degree there at lower cost, make extremely good grades, and then spend the money on the masters and (maybe) doctorate. This assumes that the program(s) that you want to study are available at the state university, of course.

    The last/highest degree is usually the more deeply regarded degree in the job market, although the bachelor's is still important. As well, the number of universities you'll likely want to consider for the masters/doctorate is going to be smaller than for the bachelor's degree, because you will be specialising in your field, perhaps highly so, which restricts the number of universities performing such research or study.

    I went over to the UK for my post-graduate studies after a bachelors at a reasonably well respected provincial university in Canada, and then returned to Canada for doctoral studies. The contacts and knowledge I gained by picking the very best researchers in my chosen field to study with still give me immense advantages many years later. Few people care much about my bachelor's degree, as I "proved" myself with the higher degree studies.

    Now, there's little doubt that you can have added opportunities if you can afford to study at the "best" university for every degree, and if you have those kind of financial resources available, well, go forth and study in such places. OTOH, if you're trying to stretch the finances through several degrees, plan carefully at that point you spend the most cash. It's not a good thing to want to move onto the masters/doctoral track and simply fold your cards because you have so much debt from the bachelor's degree that you can't continue.


    John P.
  8. bob swanson

    bob swanson Guest

    :cool: Hi Micah

    I'm going to take a little different slant than the rest. First of all get all of the free (not really) education that you can stand. As far as a masters or Doctorate in photography my feelings are that you are leaning towards teaching photography.
    Photography is a wonderful and bountiful profession and I really feel that I'm not even working most of the time. It would pay you to diversify somewhat though. Graphic arts, design, etc.
    Once you get a fair foundation in photography than you can seek some of the "on-the-job" training that we are surrounded with and still be in college learning something else. In other words, seeking the highest degree possible for photography (I believe) will lead you to teach if thats what you want to do. Getting a BA would give you a good foundation if you want to be in business shooting.
    I am self taught for the most part and my boring life will have me working at home, tomorrow photographing a military party, the next day a wedding, next week a pre-school shoot and later on a ships commissioning for the Indian Navy and then right back to portraits, weddings and military events. Really booooooring (not on your life!!)
    Good luck and don't forget to LEARN. www.bsvirginian.smugmug.com
  9. just fyi, unless you really want to teach... most photographers are good at business, in fact it is a business and you're selling a product. Taking the picture is the easy part, where as getting clients, ads, marketing, all that is the hard part.

    Now, I can see how good of a business person you are (op) because you're passing up something FREE for something you're going to pay for... Take the free offer, get a business degree and get some art classes, then go from there.

    Worst case you do that for a few years and then pay to go to school later, there really isn't a hurry!

    just my .02
  10. lbhs_rwb


    Oct 16, 2006
    I think I wasn't clear earlier...The pre-paid only covers my undergraduate degree, and when I asked for suggestions, I meant on a florida public school that has a good photo program. I know UF has a good photojournalism school, but I don't really want that. In the end, I want to do work like celebrity portraits, and that kind of thing. And I know that in order to get the contacts I need, i'll have to go to one of the higher end schools..like brooks. A nice thing about the masters program there, is that they only meet every so often, so that you can have a full time job, while still schooling.

    The reason I said that I want to start studying photography right away, is that you can only get so far with a good eye. And there are certain aspects of photography that I really cant learn by all the reading I do online. There are very few photographers in my area, and even less that to good work...unfortunately Annie Leibovitz doesn't have a "be my apprentice" website =P Also, I don't want to go to a public school and get a boring degree, just because it's free.
  11. Jaws


    Mar 27, 2007
    Columbia, MD
    Consider majoring in photography and getting a minor in business administration. Something along those lines will complement each other.

    Taking some classes in graphic arts may also be beneficial if you are going to be real heavy into creative things with Photoshop.
  12. bob swanson

    bob swanson Guest

    :biggrin:Many years ago I partially supported my son who was going to college for art. He was pretty sneaky and took only the fun and creative courses for 2 years. He finished all of the fun courses and had only the math, science, language, etc. left. So he quit. His occupation although good uses none of the courses that he took for 2 years. In essence he trained for his current occupation as I did. Self taught.
    By the way I doubt that few of the photographers that photograph celebrities are "Brooksies". bsvirginian
  13. lbhs_rwb


    Oct 16, 2006
    Why not?

    ..and by the whole, photograph celebrities thing, I just meant that although i'm not sure exactly what exactly I want to do in photography, but I know that I don't want to do high school senior portraits, and bar mitzvahs...blech...that's boring, to me.

    That was a run on..wasn't it?
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