Stand Dev. Retro 400s

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I have been getting rather annoyed at Rollei Retro 400s' strong contrast in South Africa's harsh sunlight, and have wondered what would happen if I did a stand develop...

Being fairly uninformed, I just went ahead and did it.
Another snag was that its medium format film, so I was nervous for uneven development.

- Pre-soak with room temp water. (approx 25 deg C)
- Rodinal 1:100 (mixed with room temp distilled water)
- very gentle agitation for the first minute and then 59 min stand.

Revisions for next time: I will shoot at ISO 800, and possibly dilute the Rodinal a little more. Maybe 1:125.
The negs had a very subtle base fog, but they looked great no less.
The negs were a little dense, with highlights a little blocked up, but they were easy to scan.

If anyone has tried this combination? If so, I would value the input.
Here are some of my results.


Images were shot on a Pentax 67II with either the Takumar 105/2.4 or the SMC 55/4

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Great results, all looking good, nice use of dof in #4, almost 3D look!
I´ve never pre-soaked, could you tell me a little about the reason?
 
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Pre-soaking just means putting water in the tank for a minute before you start with the developer. It should make help the developer spread over the film more evenly, and it is generally recommended for stand development. It also sometimes dissolves the backing color of the film, which might be advantageous: a lot of blue water comes out when I pre-soak Efke films (never seemed to matter with the results though). However, I believe Kodak recommends not doing any pre-soak or pre-wash if you use their film with their developers. I guess their chemicals are matched to take care of everything.
 
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I *love* contrasty black and white. Plenty of deep blacks, near blown highlights, and a good amount of midtone. Number three is stunning.
 
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Thanks guys!

Retro 400s requres such long dev times in any event, that stand dev makes more sense to me. Rather standing and developing for 22min, I can rather get the stand dev rolling in a few min, and come back an hour later... an hour in which I can work at other stuff.

Anyways, I have a roll of Retro 80s also ready for scanning. Developed it this morning, at 1:200 for one hour. I suppose I will rather try the Retro 400s at 1:200 first before I shoot it at EI 800 and develop in 1:100

Here is one more shot from the 400s film...
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Great results, all looking good, nice use of dof in #4, almost 3D look!
I´ve never pre-soaked, could you tell me a little about the reason?

Adding to what Koen already mentioned, a pre-soak is often recommended by manufacturers for certain deep penetrating developers. Especially for multi layered films such as Rollei R3 films.
Not sure why else, but to be honest I just do it out of habit, and I actually like the different colours that come from different films :biggrin:
The EFKE 25 has a fantastic blue colour, but my favourite of all is from the Rollei Ortho film, which is proper lumo-green! Wicked cool.
 
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I pre-soak all my film whether the manufacturer recommends it or not.:biggrin:

I need to try Retro 80s, here's a shot a buddy did and dev'd in Rodinal 1:25
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Love the photo. The blacks are so inky and wet it feels like your hands would get dirty just holding a print.
 
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Thats a pretty cool shot Bill.
I find 80s a fantastic film, but a bit slow to my liking. I mostly shoot 400, or 25, very little in the middle.
The Retro S films have a fairly strong contrast, so I have to develop at a dilution of 1:50 or 1:100.

Here is the Retro 80s Stand in Rodinal 1:200.
I got uneven development on some frames, so I figure 2.5ml per 500ml tank is pushing it a bit:biggrin:

I'll probably try 1:100 again, but this time rate the films faster.
This experimenting will take a while. I'm not shooting a lot of film currently...

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