Well, I changed my mind. I ordered a 80-400VR to be delivered and the next day after I placed the order I got an e-mail to call the company and confirm. I called to confirm and at the last minute changed to a 70-200VR. I've been looking at everyones lens kits and this one seems to be a must have. It will be my first "pro glass". I would like to use a teleconverter with it at some point. I do realize it will make it slower, but will it change the quality of the shots I get with this lens? If so, will the change in quality be drastic? Since I'd like to get some bird shots I think I need a 2X. If I had my druthers I would get the 200-400VR along with the 70-200VR but since I'm just a hard working poor girl I've got to make do with what I can! Alot of ya'll suggested the 300 f/4 and I would love to have that too, but I decided to start with a good base lens and work with it. I hope I made a good decision. I do plan to shoot more than just birds. Everyone at the cafe has been great with their advice. Thanks ya'll!