At the suggestion in Peter Bendheim's recent post, I went over to PhotoShare.co.nz and took advantage of their free trial offer to post a couple of images there. I like the site, and find the menus a lot easier to deal with than at pbase. But this may be a personal problem. Unlike most, I'm virtually incapable of getting my images out of my in box at pbase. So, as many know, my inbox is where almost all of my images are. Dozens and dozens of 'em. With the two following images, I've tried to do everything right to make them look good in jpeg at this resolution (convert to sRGB, sharpen specifically for web viewing, sizing at 800 px on the long side). These particular images were taken at the Indian ruins I've mentioned before (I think). On the way back from Arches and Canyonlands two weeks ago we stopped here, about 40 miles west of Blanding, Utah. These just happen to be the easiest to reach of hundreds of ruins in the area and to have the most spectacular ceiling (rock overhang). Both images taken within minutes of each other, at 10:46 and 10:49, local time. Relatively late morning times are necessary for the sun to get high enough to reflect into the ruins and onto the ceiling. On my screen they look pretty good. Considering they're going from Arizona to New Zealand, then back to the U.S., then back to Arizona. Well-travelled stuff. D2x, 12-24mm DX at 12mm, f/16 @ 1/30.