First of all I am very disappointed that the thread in question evolved the way it did. 1. People had the right to agree. 2. People had the right to disagree. NO ONE has the right to get to the point where we are insulting one another here at the cafe it doesn't matter if its publically or via private message. This should have been a healthy debate on forum behaviour, ethics, and posting techniques. Folks, we are all supposed to get along here. Regardless of popular belief on free speech I'm not going to allow behavior like I saw. I will not name any names but all parties involved should know better and be able to conduct themselves like professionals. There is absolutely no need for sarcasm, berating, insults, or anything of that matter. I know a good amount of the people on this forum either by email, pm, or just threads and know that the people here are good at heart. Lets not let this happen again and get back to what we love to do. Take pictures. Get out there and take photos, that's what we are here for. This community has some of the best people I have ever been associated with. We can all exercise common courtesy and do the right thing without there needing to be any banning, deleting of posts, or heavy moderation. If you feel like responding to this thread I expect it to remain civil! In case anyone needs clarification. From dictionary.com civility n 1: formal or perfunctory politeness [ant: incivility] 2: the act of showing regard for others [syn: politeness] Thanks to all.