http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/atx165prodx-a.html Mount availability: Canon EOS, Nikon-D Focal length: 16 to 50mm Maximum aperture: f/2.8 Minimum aperture: f/22 Optical construction: 15 elements in 12 groups SD glass: One elements Coatings: "Water Proof” optical coating Angle of view: 82° ~ 31° Minimum focus distance: 11.8 in. (30cm) Macro Ratio: 1:4.88 Zooming system: Rotary type Number of diaphragm blades: 9 Filter size: 77mm Dimensions: 3.3 in. (84mm) X L 3.8 in. (97.4mm) Weight: 21.5 oz. (610g) Lens Hood BH-777 Availability: May 2007 So does anybody have one of these yet? Sigma makes me too nervous. A lot of people seem to like the Tamron, but then a lot don't also. I'm wondering if the Tokina is any better? I'm happy with my 18-55 kit lens and am not in a rush, but this is the newest thing I've found to "lust" over and am eager to hear some feedback. :smile: Adorama has it listed for $660. I couldn't find it at B&H yet.