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Used vs Gray market

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by greenbeanazure, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. greenbeanazure

    greenbeanazure

    261
    Jun 1, 2009
    USA
    Hi,
    I've been watching sales on Ebay for some lenses, it seems that used Nikon USA lenses sometimes go for almost the same price as New Gray Market lenses. Wouldn't it make more sense to buy a New gray market lens from a reputable dealer vs a used Nikon USA lens? I ask this under the presumption that the warranty is not transferable, hence making one of the benefits of a nikon usa lens moot.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Max Power

    Max Power

    Jan 11, 2009
    St Paul, MN
    Warranty is one thing, getting Nikon USA to even repair it is another.

    They won't touch gray market lenses, warranty or not.
     
  3. Absolutely! The only thing grey I'd consider is one of the TC's. Considerable savings to be had. :biggrin:
     
  4. KEH and APS will fix any Nikon,and are cheaper than Nikon Service.
     
  5. davidC

    davidC

    530
    Mar 10, 2009
    MD
    are they as good? reliable?
     
  6. They'll fix it, you'll just pay for it.
     
  7. Max Power

    Max Power

    Jan 11, 2009
    St Paul, MN
    I have heard that they won't even touch it.
     
  8. That is their official policy. I don't own any grey markets items, but many others here have said they sent their items to Nikon and got them serviced. I don't know if it a don't ask, don't tell situation, but they do get fixed.
     
  9. Sole Shooter

    Sole Shooter

    307
    Sep 20, 2007
    So. Cal.
    Max Power, not to pick on you but, I don't see why Nikon would care. Used or grey, there's no warranty and so the owner would just have pay for repairs. I mean, it's STILL a Nikon product.
     
  10. TANG0F0XTR0T

    TANG0F0XTR0T

    853
    Jun 4, 2008
    UK
    I've read all about this over the past several months. I do believe that Nikon won't repair a grey item even if you pay for it. The reason I've read is to control where items are sold (originating countries) for price control.

    What I don't understand is why does any dealer sell these? What is the benefit? I wouldn't mind going to KEH and paying them to repair it but most items are so close in price to the USA versions.

    I want to buy a used 300 2.8 soon but I want to make sure they'll service it in England even though I buy it here. I'll pay for service but if they refuse me I'll be up a creek.
     
  11. TANG0F0XTR0T

    TANG0F0XTR0T

    853
    Jun 4, 2008
    UK
    So, I need to buy a USA lens and the seller needs to provide me with a receipt so I can at least service it in the UK if I need to for some reason. That is what I was thinking based on what I've read as well.
     
  12. Nikon is a large multi-nation corporation. USA models are imported and serviced by Nikon USA. They want people in the US to buy from them. About the only leverage they have is to say they will not honor the (Nikon USA) warranty and not repair non-USA models.
    However, I have never heard of someone shipping a camera to Nikon USA and have them return it because it was not a USA model.
     
  13. GH41

    GH41

    Nov 18, 2008
    HHI
    "On the other hand if you actually go to another country and buy a lens and then bring it here and have the receipt to prove you actually bought it yourself – then they will service it"

    Edward is correct

    "So, I need to buy a USA lens and the seller needs to provide me with a receipt so I can at least service it in the UK if I need to for some reason. That is what I was thinking based on what I've read as well"

    Only if you purchase a USA lens from an authorized Nikon dealer while in the states. Nikon would consider it imported and not grey market in the UK. If I buy a lens from Ying Yang Camera in Hong Kong on ebay and have it shipped to the states I am screwed. If I am in Hong Kong and buy the same lens from an authorized dealer and bring it home I am OK. GH
     
  14. Is that a supposition, or have you actually experienced this?

    I ask because the USA is the only country I have seen where genuine Nikon items are divided two categories, "grey" and "USA", and both are sold at different prices.
     
  15. TANG0F0XTR0T

    TANG0F0XTR0T

    853
    Jun 4, 2008
    UK
    In my case, a new one would be something I probably can't afford. I would buy one used, but it would be from a seller in the U.S. who bought it here in the U.S. and had the receipt. When I go to the UK I could have it serviced as it wouldn't be rejected because it was bought from an authorized U.S. dealer and my receipt would prove that.

    Then again, this sounds like so much trouble but I can't afford another $2K just to get a new one.
     
  16. intruder61

    intruder61

    Dec 16, 2008
    australia
  17. I personally sent a D1h , which I had purchased used , to the Nikon facility in Melville for a firmware upgrade , which was by the offered as a free upgrade , and the camera was sent back to me with no upgrade done and a note attached telling me my camera was a grey market import and that it was their policy to not service any grey market items .
     
  18. chuckh

    chuckh

    13
    Feb 17, 2009
    Canada
    I don't even understand why places like Adorama even bother selling grey market lenses, when the USA models are typically only 5-10% more. I mean who takes the chance for that small of a difference?
     
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