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Well, whaddya know. 500/4P +2x TC is useable! :D

Discussion in 'Lens Lust' started by Ming Thein, May 2, 2007.

  1. I'd never been able to get this combo - AI-P 500/4 and Kenko Pro300 2x TC - to work well on my D2H or D50; I didn't bother trying with the D80 or D200. I got used to 500/4 +1.4x = 700/5.6. Big mistake. Today I tried the 500/4 with the 2x - whoa! It's not only useable, but sharp!

    All shot wide open; D200 + 500/4P and 2x Kenko Pro300 TC (won't show in exif data; the 500/4P doesn't have the extra recording pins to show the TC used). Lens on a Manfrotto 444 Carbon One tripod with 486MGRC0 Hydrostat head. Cropped to other aspect ratios only.

    One thing I'll say is that you need a good tripod for this. While 700/5.6 is useable on a monopod...forget it with 1000/8. You also start to have problems acquiring the subject - I had to resort to using the groves on the focusing ring like a rifle sight at times.

    Enjoy! Thoughts welcome as always. :smile:


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  2. sclamb


    Jan 2, 2007
    Beautufully done. Those are really well taken shots and the colour and sharpness are excellent. Looks like a great combination.
  3. Thanks for more useful information Ming. Nice set of images you present here as well
  4. Gale


    Jan 26, 2005
    Viera Fl
    Wow thats unreal:>)))
    Nice birdie shots.

    Can you see me waving at you Ming??
  5. Thanks everybody.

    Gale - lemme stack on the 1.4x as well...ahh, there you are! :biggrin:

  6. Excellen photos and great information. May have to try the 2x on the 600.
  7. Wow, this obviously works very well Ming! I suspect that you are going to have a real good time with this combo.
  8. Wow! Those are great. It's nice to find a bonus like that, isn't it?

  9. Works great once you get over the camera shake issue. FOV is equivalent to 1,500mm so you *really* need some decent support on the lens. I think DOF wide open is about 5mm or so at 30 feet - so focusing accuracy is especially critical. Oddly, seems better at close to middle distances compared to infinity performance.

    No idea how it'll work on the 600/4, Larry - is it the AIS version or one of the newer AF/S versions? I guess the 1.4 should work nicely though.

  10. Ming,
    it is the 600mm f/4D ED-IF AF-S II Nikkor. the 1.4 does work well, need to try the 1.7 and 2.0 now that you have given me some motivation. Here is a link to one with the 600 and 1.4.
  11. Nice work Ming. How do you rate it against no TC and cropping?:rolleyes: 
    Larry, I use my 400 f/2.8 AF-S 11 with a 1.7 TC and have not been as happy as I thought I would have been. Maybe the 1.4 would have been a smarter acquisition?:frown:
  12. I've heard the newer lenses don't like anything more than TC14EII; the TC17E is better than the TC20 but still not great. I've tried all three on a 200-400VR and not really been happy with anything but the 14. My 500/4P works great with the Kenko 1.4 - I can't see any difference with/without the TC, and Bjorn reports that this lens takes 1.4x converters very well - however, the 2.0 is a mixed bag. Focusing accuracy has to be spot on. In my experience, it *can* deliver very good results wide open - with just the slightest hint of blooming/internal flare - but only providing you get the focusing bang on. Definitely better than cropping without a doubt. Oddly, the 500/4P +2x combo looks lousy on my D2H irrespective of aperture setting, but it looks fine on my D200. Strange.

  13. Very good from these samples.
  14. I used my 120-300 f/2.8 sigma with a sigma 2 x's converter with my old D2H and was only just comfortable with it. The combo is better on my D2X. So I can see where you are coming from with the different body results.
    I think I may end up selling the 17 TC and buy a 1.4 instead.
    Thanks for the reply Ming.
  15. Doug


    Jan 17, 2006
    East TN
    these birds nesting technique is fascinating. Very cool. I bet that takes them a long time to build one of these hanging houses. I guess they hang it because climbing critters can't get to them that way?
  16. Actually the nests are more like upside-down bells with perches inside...no idea if critters have anything to do with it or not.

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