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What will Santa bring this year?

Discussion in 'Other Cool Gear, Camera Bags, Camera Straps' started by nfoto, Dec 12, 2005.

  1. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    Oh well, since I pay the bills myself this year's "gifts" are more an indulgence than a real surprise,

    First, a decent tripod,


    and secondly, the corresponding decent head to top it,


    With sundry add-ons and shipping, we're talking a cool $ 9.000,- :biggrin:

    But at least Santa has fulfilled my wishlist. And with a quoted load capacity of 105 kg I think I can sit comfortably on the tripod even after the holidays.

    Incidentally I considered the Wimberley head but I concluded I need something more substantial for my long lenses. Seems I ended up paying nearly 20 times the price of a Wimberley, but who cares in the end?
  2. MontyDog


    Jan 30, 2005
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  3. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    I'm actually replacing one of my Sachtler tripods with a Heavy Duty version. To be exact, I switch from a metal HD (which I already have) to a carbon fibre model to make using the tripod in the winter more amenable to my hands. My other carbon Sachtlers are smaller so won't carry the big new head, they are outfitted with the Burzynski heads. But my experiences with really long lenses this autumn have resulted in my wanting a head to "float" the lens, and since I need to both "float" and "stabilize" concurrently, the Wimberley isn't the solution for me. Enter the pro calibre fluid heads with built-in counterbalancing, at a commensurate asking price I'm afraid. Oh well, just tools of the trade.

    Haven't lost a tripod yet, only had one of them run over by a friend's car. But the tracking device is a good idea. I run GPS systems on all my D2X bodies. But tracking might prevent one of my issues with forgetting the second camera on a location and just drive off, to miss the camera on the next shoot (has happened a few times, but when I returned some hours later the camera was still there :smile: ).
  4. merry xmas, I like your way of thinking! I am spending 1/10 of that amount on a new gitzo 1548 for myself, only cause that is all my bill payer has to spare right now, and yes, I pay my own too. :^(
  5. What a nice piece of equipment. And it makes me feel good about the money I spent on my X'mas gift :biggrin:

    Happy spending, everyone.
  6. marc

    marc Guest

    i am hoping santa takes GOOGLE to $450, so i can then buy all the new toys i am wishing for.

    happy new year
  7. Ooh...how does inbuilt counterbalancing work? I want I want I want...somehow the Gitzo 1500 series carbon isn't as appealing anymore :tongue:

  8. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    Basically it is a fluid system setting up a counterbalance, the drag force of which can be selected in 7 steps for both horizontal and vertical axis. You can have the head balancing your long lens in any position, even pointing virtually straight down. This kind of performance does not come cheap but that goes without saying :biggrin: The lens will "float" virtually weightless and you can move it then stop the movement and it will hang seemingly weightless and motionless (by virtue of the counterbalance) in mid-air.

    Fluid heads typically are used for cine and heavy video cameras, and the heads suitable for long-lens photography need to be a very high quality in order to dampen out any vibration.
  9. strobel


    Apr 30, 2005
    Algonquin, IL

    A cool $9,000 what? Can we equate that to American $s?
  10. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    U S D = $
  11. strobel


    Apr 30, 2005
    Algonquin, IL
    Thanks, I was just wanting to see how insane this whole photography thing can get. You sir, are the king.:smile: :smile: :smile:
  12. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    Hm - "insane" isn't the proper term here. Just a sound investment of some of the last month's profits. After all, I haven't purchased more than 5 or 6 Sachtler tripods over a period of 25 years, they may be expensive but last forever (I still possess, and use, each and every one of them).
  13. That is some great equipment. And that is wonderfull present to yourself.
  14. One thing to afford the setup, but for me the REAL killer would be the ongoing food bills for the Sherpa's to cart the whole thing up and down the hills for me :biggrin: .

    Nice setup, Bjorn, but how much does that whole thing weigh?
  15. JKirbs


    Sep 6, 2005

    You mean you're not getting the "Speedlock" variant?


    Do i have to tell you my local importer "product specialist manager" doesn't even know what C.O.G. means? . . .

    Incidentally, i think the Vinton or Cartoni heads are better for the same price, because you can get illuminated levels. Sacthler IIRC only does that when you spend real money for cine heads . . .

    Happy Christmas Everyone!

    - kirbs

  16. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    The tripod is to be used for various purposes, so the Speedlock variety wasn't my primary selection. Besides, I like the starkness of the Sachtler heads. I do have used the big Cartoni fluid head and yes it's very nice, but I still prefer the Sachtler. Plus, having a local repair facility available if something untoward happens with my gear is a bonus I can't neglect to consider (none available for the other brands unless I ship items outside my country). A friend of mine has the Cartoni head and one of their largest 100 mm tripods, weight is almost double of the Sachtler gear.

    "Vinton" = Vinten?
  17. JKirbs


    Sep 6, 2005
    Sorry, yes, it was a typo :( 

    I was about to upgrade my support about three months ago, but work and my business partner's sudden death have kept me from making a final choice. When i was a kid, i got jobs with cine, and so i feel i cheat myself without a fluid head. The reason i like the "Speedlock" is because i am stuck in an inner city of London, out of choice i add, but where setup and tear-down time can be a matter for personal safety.

    You are quite right about the Cartoni head weights! Also i rather agree with you that "stark" appearance which also equates to engineering simplicity. Trust the Germans :) 

    But look where the mass goes:


    and there's no reason not to choose a smaller Sachtler 100mm support, save mine, which is that _no Sacthler rises without center column to my eye level, when i stand. I'm never going to use a column, and only O'Connor offer the height.

    For pictorial interest, here's the heads i'm closing in on:

    The Vinten~


    The Cartoni~


    and, yes, they are both HUGE compared with the Sacht' 20. But also in the same price ballpark.

    But unless i'm much mistaken, the Cartoni will be the one:

    " with the European style quick attachment camera plate, can be increased to +/- 90 ° with the optional sliding base plate."

    and that last thing matters to me because i consider an L- plate to affect the C.O.G. calculations.

    I guess we're quite different in our use. e.g. I don't even use long lenses save occasionally, and i am usually shooting at eye height rapidly, because of what interests me. The first says i "don't need" a fluid head - but i want the engineering quality, second says i need the rise, which is all of 192cm for me, measured to eyepiece. If it were lower, i'd not get any advantage because squatting i'll have problems managing even basic stability when i reframe.

    Here's me trying to find the "one solution" for tripods! Ha ha ha ha!

    best from me,

    - kirbs
  18. JKirbs


    Sep 6, 2005

    Note also the much larger panning baseplates on the non - Sacht' models - this dictates their mass and volume, and i think, whilst it is a function of higher load - bearing specifications, adds to stability.

    I would like to know where you think the Speedlock is no good, if you'll indulge me . . ?

    (aside from choosing spikes versus rubber feet, or spreader constraints when you get real low - that's a minus for the O'Connor tripods, because they don't let you get the spreader wherever you want it)

    - kirbs
  19. nfoto

    nfoto Guest

    I'm 168. And use long lenses - a lot. Which explains much of the different approaches. But you're correct in pointing out that there no such beast as a single tripod solution suitable for all needs. Hence my inventory of 8 or 9 different tripods, six are various Sachtlers several of which are heavily modified others just are heavy duty, plus several fluid heads. To be honest I never seem to be able concurrently to locate each and every one of the tripods since some always surface in the strangest places. Usually there is at least one of the medium-sized Sachtler buried deep within my car and yesterday I spotted two in my garage which I hadn't seen in a while :biggrin: . Had I been more diligent in tracking my tripods I might have saved myself a few purchases but never mind. There are other more important matters to attend to.

    One of the reasons for choosing the heavy-duty models is that they offer superior torsional rigidity, by way of their wide base, which is very important when you shoot with long lenses. But in order to keep the bulk of the tripod manageable in a field setting, I decided to stay with the 100 mm class instead of going all the way to 150 mm.

    ("Speedlock no good" - haven't said anything to that effect, just that I won't consider it for my own use. Fast setting up isn't a criterion)
  20. eng45ine


    May 11, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    If you saw the Slik tripod that I use, you all would laugh at me! I'm so not worthy!!!:Sad:
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